Strange that they threw the book at him for this in the same season Leeds got fined £200,000 for watching training from a public place and Millwall got fined twice 12K for rascist fans. Put them together in seriousness??
You do know that discriminatory jokes about a person's nationality fall under one of the protected characteristics listed in the Equality Act of 2010 and that to discriminate on that basis is a criminal offence? If you didn't, you do now.I see where you’re coming from but where does it stop?
I’m from Liverpool and have had a lifetime of the stereotype filled jibes. Some meant in jest, most not...is it a big deal? No. It’s accepted, countrywide. Should people be hung out to dry for it? Absolutely not.
How about discriminatory jokes towards:
Hair colour
Weight
Dress sense
Height
Personality
Education
Nationality
Accent
Fitness level
Sporting ability
Comments on any of the above can be deemed to be offensive to someone. All are accepted. But it’s all got to stop. Sound ridiculous? It’s because it is.
Bobby doesn’t need a course. A person who wouldn’t give another person a job because of any of the above, would absolutely require a course. Bobby should have gotten a quiet word- at worst...purely because of his position.
It may have been a genuine apology for the comment but let’s be honest, he didn’t have a choice. He’s not in a position to say ‘it’s a joke, don’t you have anything better to do?’.
You do know that discriminatory jokes about a person's nationality fall under one of the protected characteristics listed in the Equality Act of 2010 and that to discriminate on that basis is a criminal offence? If you didn't, you do now.
Leeds and Millwall will have been punished by the EFL, Maddley will have been punished by PGMOL/The FA.Strange that they threw the book at him for this in the same season Leeds got fined £200,000 for watching training from a public place and Millwall got fined twice 12K for rascist fans. Put them together in seriousness??
I'm an Irishman and have spent much of my life being maligned as stupid or a terrorist sympathiser. I have reported people for anti-Irish jokes in the past which cost them positions in football. So I guess the answer to your question is yes.Would you report someone or expect anyone else to do so, for telling an Englishman-Scotsman-Irishman joke, Brian? Jokes on nationality are common place, nobody seems to pay a blind bit of notice of the fact it’s a criminal offence.
Must've been shockingly bad jokes there BrianI have reported people for anti-Irish jokes
Fixed for you.Must've been shockingly bad TASTE jokes there Brian
I love ripping it out of people for all host of reasons; and it's even better when on the receiving end. We are drifting off topic, that said
Watched him on Tuesday.Someone who has impressed me recently is Ollie Langford. Got a good no nonsense approach and seems to command respect from the players.
Nicely doneFixed for you.
I'm an Irishman and have spent much of my life being maligned as stupid or a terrorist sympathiser. I have reported people for anti-Irish jokes in the past which cost them positions in football. So I guess the answer to your question is yes.
Would I report a single instance to the police? It's unlikely as they have better things to do. If it was repeated, then I would. Otherwise where do you draw the line.
As for all the other things you mentioned, while not protected by law per se, repeated comments made in a derogatory manner could be construed as harassment. Now there are laws which cover that and make it a criminal offence. The owners of this forum have stepped in more than once where they felt harassment of an individual placed them at risk of being called out for condoning the harassment by failing to take action.
You'd be surprised how many left-leaning "woke" comedians are managing to make a good living out of it. It's definitely possible to be funny without being offensive, certainly without having to target minority and disadvantaged groups to do it.How difficult is it to be a comedian these days where literally anything you say can offend somebody?
You appear to be confusing the words 'offensive' and 'discriminatory'.I see where you’re coming from but where does it stop?
I’m from Liverpool and have had a lifetime of the stereotype filled jibes. Some meant in jest, most not...is it a big deal? No. It’s accepted, countrywide. Should people be hung out to dry for it? Absolutely not.
How about discriminatory jokes towards:
Hair colour
Weight
Dress sense
Height
Personality
Education
Nationality
Accent
Fitness level
Sporting ability
Comments on any of the above can be deemed to be offensive to someone. All are accepted. But it’s all got to stop. Sound ridiculous? It’s because it is.
Bobby doesn’t need a course. A person who wouldn’t give another person a job because of any of the above, would absolutely require a course. Bobby should have gotten a quiet word- at worst...purely because of his position.
It may have been a genuine apology for the comment but let’s be honest, he didn’t have a choice. He’s not in a position to say ‘it’s a joke, don’t you have anything better to do?’.
I went to a 50th celebration of The Comedians a few years ago which used to be on ITV in the 70s. They’re all in their later 70s plus now, all household names, Mick Miller, Roy Walker. Most jokes were borderline today but 5000 people left their offended hats off at home and had a blooming good night. Different era, nothing racist though, all still very funny and great timing and stage presence. I didn’t find Tommy Cooper funny back then but his timing was brilliant. The leftie luvvies today are not a patch on the old boys!You'd be surprised how many left-leaning "woke" comedians are managing to make a good living out of it. It's definitely possible to be funny without being offensive, certainly without having to target minority and disadvantaged groups to do it.
Having said that, offensive "blue" comics (your frankie Boyle/Jimmy carr's) do exist by being quite smart about who they target, but it definitely takes some thought and can sometimes miss the mark. And then you get the question of apologise or double-down?
And obviously you've got a 3rd group who revel in being offensive and unapologetic. The fact that the likes of Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown are still active does suggest that it's perfectly possible to be offensive if you're happy to go along with the consequences of being "cancelled"
You appear to be confusing the words 'offensive' and 'discriminatory'.
Example: Person A mocks Person B for being disabled. Person B can't exactly mock Person A for being fully abled, can he? It's not a 'level playing field'. These types of jokes have the potential to marginalise. This is why cases of discrimination cannot be dealt with just a "quiet word".
It's not about the intention, it's is about how it is received.
And it doesn't have to be the intended target that finds it offensive.