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Hope you reported that as well.
just the red card. just to clarify it was the other team and their manager that didn't mind reporting the offender not his manager or teammates. I thought i understand that you are feeling generous and truly appreciate it but gotta send it in.

But why would i want/should report this? They were trying to be nice/understanding that he his still young and didn't want to further punish him.
 
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Ok here's a take on some of the discussions; 2 incidents which I will rely and pls don't crucify me just yet!

1st game: Youth game U-14 (academy) Blues are on a counter attack breaking away number 5 near the penalty area with 2 orange players crossing from his right to close him off so no clear shot at goal just yet; still time and distance for the blues to close him off. Orange number 15 tackles him from behind, never the ball always the man and he knows it. not excessive force, but catches blues number 5 high on his calf.

1) This age is plenty old enough to see a red card, especially for a mandatory one - and especially when they haven't even attempted at the ball. Don't do the 'they're just kids' thing. Cautioning for red card offences doesn't provide an educational opportunity, IMO.

2) Having said that, if the attacker wasn't in shooting range and a defender was likely to be able to get to him - or in a position to block a shot - before in shooting range then this most likely isn't an OGSO. Though if he's close to the PA that may well still be in shooting range.


v Blues #16 goes for the neck and face, grabbing and punching, #8 gets out of the way.

I'm close so loud whistles asking everyone to back off, isolate the man and dish out RC. I give number 8 a YC too, as he did respond aggressively in my view pushing the kid away. No complaints from either side. However to my surprise the red team before i gave the kid any card were asking to dismiss the incident, "sand bags ref". Even afterwards they asked me not to send it with the reds manager asking me to forgive the offending blues player as he is still a young lad (U-17).

Young lad or not, can't defend that. Clear red card. Obviously I didn't see it there, but I question if 8 needed a yellow card - was he also instigating the matter, or was he using minimal force to try and get his assailant away from him? Given 16 was attacking his face, I think trying to push him away is perfectly reasonable and not unsporting. Depends on the manner of 8.
 
We may as well just stick to two post threads: OP posts leading questing, next poster replies with stock answer, aren't we all good boys, end of thread.
While you clearly intend to say stock answers are bad, in actual fact, IMHO, they are exactly what we should be aiming for. What the Laws of the Game have been steadily moving towards for years is to limit inconsistency and "creative" refereeing. There are huge areas of Law where it does come down to ITOOTR, we don't need to blur lines or find alternative options in the areas where the Laws are plain and unambiguous. This is nothing to do with being "good boys" but with being good referees. If we can arrive at a time where every player knows exactly how a ref will deal with certain situations, then it will actually lead to less protest, less dissent and an easier game to control.
 
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