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Louis Clarke

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Hi guys,
Today I Reff'd a game and I had to caution a player for abusive language toward myself.
I asked him for his name and he was very hesitant like he was trying to make something up.
After the match I went over to the manager and told him the players number and asked him if the name was correct, he didn't confirm it was, he just looked shocked and said "Did you caution him" I said yes and he just said "mmm" and walked off.
I have just gone to file the caution and the player name has not popped up on their team list of players.
This could all be a big misunderstanding and it could well and truly be his name, but what happens if it is not and I file an incorrect name?

Any help is appreciated,
thanks.
 
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Report the name the player gave you.

Let your county worry about whether they've fielded and unregistered or inelligible player.
 
I have gone to the list of players before on the Whole Game and the name has not been there, sometimes the system is not updated in time, put the name in manually, put in an extraordinary report stating you asked the manager to confirm his name but refused to.Keep hold of your match sheet in case your F.A. contact you to clarify the name then they can sort it out.
 
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@Louis Clarke do you really need me to explain?

Offensive, Insulting and Abusive Language & gestures is sanctioned by what according to the LOTG?

You cautioned a player for abusive language.....see where this is going?
 
@Louis Clarke do you really need me to explain?

Offensive, Insulting and Abusive Language & gestures is sanctioned by what according to the LOTG?

You cautioned a player for abusive language.....see where this is going?

No I don't actually, I'm fairly new to refereeing which is the reason I joined this forum to get help. Not to receive sarcastic comments from people with nothing better to do.
 
No I don't actually, I'm fairly new to refereeing which is the reason I joined this forum to get help. Not to receive sarcastic comments from people with nothing better to do.

Ok......what is the sanction for Offensive, Insulting or Abusive Language? It's a dismissal, red card.

You have cautioned a player for abusive language.......and not dismissed them. It is also one of the most debated topics on here.....and never ends well.

What did the player say to you?
 
If the player was using abusive language towards you then you should have shown a red rather than a yellow.

Out of curiosity, what did the player say to you?
 
Ok......what is the sanction for Offensive, Insulting or Abusive Language? It's a dismissal, red card.

You have cautioned a player for abusive language.......and not dismissed them. It is also one of the most debated topics on here.....and never ends well.

What did the player say to you?

Fair enough, thanks for your helpful reply. The other team scored and I was standing next to the centre spot where two players from the other team were conversing, the player very loudly said "This Ref's Fuc**** Sh**"

So I showed him the yellow card, much to his surprise which he said shouldn't have even been a card since he didn't say it to me.
 
Brace yourself sir, you're going to get it in the neck for that!!

@Louis Clarke do you really need me to explain?

Offensive, Insulting and Abusive Language & gestures is sanctioned by what according to the LOTG?

You cautioned a player for abusive language.....see where this is going?

@Louis Clarke Was I right...or was I right? ;)

Setting aside the colour of the card, do as some of the above posters have instructed, report the name you were given and let the good folks at your county FA's discipline branch deal with the rest.
 
At the risk of drawing the ire of Padfoot, it's definitely a card, but I'm not 100% I'd go for red for that.

This is where the dreaded phrase of "tolerance" comes into play. If I sent off every player who swears I'd have never finished a match.
 
Fair enough, thanks for your helpful reply. The other team scored and I was standing next to the centre spot where two players from the other team were conversing, the player very loudly said "This Ref's Fuc**** Sh**"

So I showed him the yellow card, much to his surprise which he said shouldn't have even been a card since he didn't say it to me.

This is a very difficult one to judge......had he said "you're fuc*ing sh*t" it would be a red card all day long......but he hasn't personalised it, which puts it into what is known as an orange card.....an offence that straddles red and yellow.
My gut instinct is that he said it deliberately loud enough for you to hear.....but tried to hide behind the "I didn't say to you though ref.." a fairly common excuse.
If it was shouted across the pitch at top volume, i'd be leaning towards red card......said at normal volumes between 2 team mates who were unaware I was there, might not even be a caution just a word......said loudly to his team mate knowing I'd hear.....definitely a caution...if he argued or was really annoying me, might even be a harsh red!

I'll also throw in an apology for my inital weary response to a topic much debated on here......
 
This is a very difficult one to judge......had he said "you're fuc*ing sh*t" it would be a red card all day long......but he hasn't personalised it, which puts it into what is known as an orange card.....an offence that straddles red and yellow.
My gut instinct is that he said it deliberately loud enough for you to hear.....but tried to hide behind the "I didn't say to you though ref.." a fairly common excuse.
If it was shouted across the pitch at top volume, i'd be leaning towards red card......said at normal volumes between 2 team mates who were unaware I was there, might not even be a caution just a word......said loudly to his team mate knowing I'd hear.....definitely a caution...if he argued or was really annoying me, might even be a harsh red!

I'll also throw in an apology for my inital weary response to a topic much debated on here......

I appreciate your apology thank you. I believe it was said in the manor so I could hear it and he could let his opinion be known, it wasn't the first time he had been at me either. Throughout the game he had been complaining about decisions I made etc, but I am grateful for your help, thank you.
 
To be fair, when you say "I had to caution a player for abusive language toward myself" that gives us the impression it's something said directly to you, which would be a red card.
 
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