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  1. J

    Lille vs Villa

    I can deal with a lack of knowledge of law from almost anyone in football. After all, none of us are born experts. Even referees. Indeed, over the past few seasons I have had multiple, genuinely interesting conversations with players/managers who have asked for clarification on often obscure...
  2. J

    Lille vs Villa

    TNT have now uploaded the full penalty shootout (). I particularly love the commentary at end (starting at 13:38). "He escaped by a tiny, tiny fraction of the law of yellow card, red card from being sent off". Must admit the "law of yellow card, red card" is a new one on me 🤣. It never fails...
  3. J

    Junior/Youth last minute 13-0 dogso

    I am sure a pragmatic match official would be unsure on at least one DOGSO consideration in such circumstances? Referees are servants of the game, not vice versa. Better referees are ones who can 'interpret law' and not 'be a slave to it'!
  4. J

    Liverpool v Everton

    It absolutely is incorrect in law. I would not support this as a credible sanction (caution). I really cannot see how a foul can "show a lack of respect for the game", especially when agreement has been reached that it is not SPA/RP. If I was coaching/observing a promotion candidate, I would...
  5. J

    Liverpool v Everton

    In the UK, going off the Step 3-6 MOAS form, they absolutely could on section 1.2 which references "consistent and credible disciplinary sanctions". Incorrect sanction.
  6. J

    AR report

    Do not think anyone here is suggesting you support the referee in something you didn’t see or hear. That does not mean you could not offer supporting (circumstantial) evidence dependent on the context. Example from one of my games. I was AR1 on a Step 5 game. Referee dismissed for OFFINABUS...
  7. J

    AR report

    Second this. Would absolutely speak to the referee. Something more, almost certainly, must have happened. There is little/no reason why the CFA would seek corroboration for a standard second yellow.
  8. J

    Orange card

    Not that I recall. It did happen in the FA Cup in 2018. Graham Scott reduced Chelsea to 9 after 2 yellows for Morata (simulation and dissent) in the space of 10 seconds.
  9. J

    Fourth Official Help

    In my experience, what @ChasObserverRefDeveloper said is best practice. However, if you are within a reasonable distance (I'd say within ten / twenty yards), a little help is appreciated. This is probably especially so in the circumstances you describe (U13-U18) as the fourth will quite...
  10. J

    Covid

    I don't really find myself disagreeing to any great extent in a personal capacity. I think for the majority of referees, with respective assumed social and economic circumstances, such behaviour could arguably be considered lunacy. But I know, as a scholar who takes a keen interest in...
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    Covid

    As stated in my post, I come down a firm "no" and do not condone any match official officiating with COVID. I am well aware, more than most, of the scientific and policy basis of COVID. I just want to raise the point that contextual factors exist and to think that, match officials officiating...
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    Covid

    While I come down a firm "no" on whether I would be officiating (or encouraging any other officials to) when positive for COVID, I think it is important to recognise the contextual factors that exist in such a decision. Personally, I referee entirely for the enjoyment (as I think a number of us...
  13. J

    Two Sin Bins

    For me, the greatest determinant of the course of action, as well as the words spoken, is the manner in which they are spoken. If, for example, the player moves towards me, is looking at me, fixes eye contact and shouts "f*** off ref" he is going for an early bath and I think this is likely to...
  14. J

    Burnley v Liverpool

    Twenty nine games is nowhere near enough of sample size to draw a wider inferential assumption about bias. Unless you get a much larger sample size (thousands of PL games officiated and hundreds of Liverpool games officiated), any conclusion drawn is meaningless. Even if you did have that sample...
  15. J

    When can a non-interfering offside player get involved again?

    Obviously not applicable at all levels and in all situations, but recently in a game where I was AR, I verbalised "11 offside" in the exact situation described. Player was ten yards from my touchline and it was a marginal call. I wouldn't usually do this, but for some reason this time I did...
  16. J

    Parent Asst Referee Behavior

    Agree. Have noticed that, when playing and officiating, if a spectator/CAR needs to be removed the close presence of the referee often only aggravates the situation. The coach is likely to have built up a relationship with the spectator/CAR etc.., so likely to yield quicker and more effective...
  17. J

    Interesting incident

    Whilst I agree with these sentiments in the most part, I think particular emphasis should be given, as Rusty highlighted, to the circumstances. For example, I wouldn’t be considering abandoning for a second, for two yellows in these circumstances, especially if they were technical offences etc...
  18. J

    2 soft yellows?

    What I think Josh is trying to get at here is the importance of accuracy (and eventual) difference in punishment. A C4 caution (which I think is probably not correct) will result in a ban and a fine. A C2 dissent caution (probably correct) will result in only a caution fine and no ban.
  19. J

    Interesting incident

    I don't think Anibus is based in England, and having refereed in multiple countries, I can testify to the fact that different conventions and protocols apply. However, from a FA (England) mentoring point of view, I would advise against allowing a player who has committed a sending off offence...
  20. J

    Interesting incident

    In the OP, the sending off offence is OFFINABUS (against a match official). I am not aware of any guidance (at least in England) that states we as referees need to allow a junior player to remain in such circumstances (appreciate it will vary across locations though).
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