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Ice hockey! Are you suggesting there's no dissent in ice hockey? I mean we can trade examples (I notice you skipped over my other two) but the point is that we risk two things: 1. It gets blown out of all proportion and we lose something from the game. I'm not saying the rugby example is...

Maybe we're at crossed purposes on how you'd define a mass confrontation of referees, but I genuinely don't see it that often (as a ref, assistant or going to watch local games). Of course it happens in other sports - tennis, American football, even in a sedate sport like cricket they scream...

In the end we're probably agreeing with each other. I would bet that my proportion of cards for dissent is high. In my last game I booked one for having a go at the assistant, another for a snarky comment after the half-time whistle and sent the manager off - 7.5 from the assessor for AoL and...

No, plainly not. The laws allow us to sanction dissent and offensive, insulting and abusive language. All I'm suggesting is that we can distinguish between those things, which merit cards, and frustration, which is inherent in the game. (I never got booked by the way so many 100s of refs also...

I know you're exaggerating for effect, but if people are being surrounded with any regularity (probably more than once a game) they really are doing something wrong. I've certainly never been pushed, and as soon as someone put their hands on me they'd be off.

Back to the original question. For me, my approach is to distinguish between frustration and things that are directed deliberately at me or the assistants. Frustration is usually a "fu**ing hell ref". Something deliberately directed at you is usually given away by a sentence that includes...

Oh yeah. I was talking about the case where a player kicks it backwards. If it's a tap forwards between two players then it's clear.

Surely if you're kicking the ball backwards, you're inherently in your own half - or rather on the line - when it's kicked. One foot will be next the ball and one foot will be kicking it. In theory, you could take a 15 yard run-up from within the opponent's half and still be on the half-way line...

Don't think it could work in a final. There are plenty of other good choices that they wouldn't need to put extra scrutiny on him. Would be like the Kevin Friend/Leicester thing again.

He'll be hoping Wales don't make it!

Why do they keep making kits without a white trim? The one from a couple of years ago was horrible as well.