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I think we make a mistake if we conflate a hobby with a job. Before I started officiating, I played for a while at a similar level. Whilst some clubs and a few players earn silly money, most in the middle to lower reaches of the NLS would have a similar equation on time spent to money earned...

The L4 experience also varies across the country - not the AR bit, where you will do Step 3 and 4 lines wherever you are. Middles look very different In some parts of the South East, you will only do Step 5, but just on one league so you see the same teams over and over again. At the other...

Agree rugby (both codes) has a different ethos. But reject drugs err no. Massive issue with steroid use, not least in South African junior rugby union Reject cheating - at least as much gamesmanship, they just call it ****housery and laugh about it. Neil Back anyone ?

Anyone else having issues with the MOAS confirmation emails ? My April fixtures are on MOAS, but no emails so only knew they were there when I logged in and looked. Could be just me, but can't see any reason why and heard anecdotally some others may be having issues

Rugby is often lauded as getting things right, and it is in a much better place on some things - general player / official respect and crowd behaviour being the most obvious (and by the way this applies just as much to Rugby League as Rugby Union). However they are far from having everything...

Last post on this, because it's going nowhere., You've completely misrepresented what I have said and then put in quotes something I haven't said and wouldn't say and called it subconsciously sexist. That's not an argument and is bordering on libellous. Enough

You are entitled to your view - no problem with that. You are not entitled to call me a sexist just because I disagree with you.

No. I'm calling BS on that one. It's absolutely not and that's a lazy argument. I'm talking about what I think is 'right' and 'fair'. I wouldn't argue for a big increase in match fees at my current level either. Some of us can engage in a discussion without only wearing a black (or red) shirt.

Equivalent level of referee currently assigned to WSL games. i.e. not Michael Oliver et al They are also already closer to PL pay than the players or managers

They are not paying lower fees at the moment. They are already paying higher fees than to the equivalent level of referee (to be clear male or female) in men's football

Err....as a level 3 I get £65 per game for a middle .... ?? Plus most of the top WSL officials referee across men's and women's football, so they are doing both anyway. Until the depth of the women's game grows, that also has to be the optimum way to develop officials for the top of the...

Of course fees are set in line with what is affordable by teams (not the same as clubs) at that level of football. The argument was about varying that depending on what the individual club can afford, which is clearly wrong. You can't charge a bigger club more than a smaller club in the same...

Being able to afford something is not a logical reason to be charged it. Match fee based on the club owner's bank balance is wrong

The nonsense would be different fees based on different attendances in the same league. There is precedent for uplift for televised matches, which has some logic, but beyond that makes no sense. And the rather charmless 'boot-licking' comment is unnecessary and unbecoming

The gauge has to be financial sustainability, which means costs go up as revenues go up, with a 'fair' distribution to all participants. We all know what happens in football when that's not the case. I love the rate at which women's football has taken off and officials' fees have risen and...

... but you can't make the problem go away. Redefine 'clear and obvious' or use different words and you just create a different arbitrary line with arguments about what is either side of it. The only way of solving it is to go with simple right or wrong, but we know many decisions in football...

On the contrary, it's part of what makes it the beautiful game and I think things tend to go wrong when we take simple principles and create Laws that try to cover every possibility when they palpably can't (cf handball or even worse Law 12.4). It just ends up confusing everyone without...

Fair points. I guess another practical issue for me is that rugby doesn't go straight to yellow card for talking out of turn to the referee. They have the 'march 10 metres forward' rule, which makes sense as a penalty in rugby in a way that doesn't really translate to football (as we have...

Blue card - good idea. Anything to make it more obvious what the decision is Blue card for SPA - hmm. Will need very clear definition of SPA & can see a whole new section with the usual, and arguably unavoidable, grey areas. Also what happens in the case of a Reckless tackle that is also SPA ...

With Maidstone we are talking FA Cup and National League North. There is nothing in those competition rules opting out of part of Law 4.