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I'm still surprised anyone expected this to be red. Never considered anything but yellow and was laughing at the tackle. Don't think the players (or Kuipers for that matter) ever spent half a second expecting red except for the non-existent DOGSO. Also not sure the match report would accurately...

The hand Stones got hit on was in front of his body though. If it would have hit his right hand, it probably would have been a PK

As a Dutchie, absolutely loved Kuipers tonight finally getting his big final after missing out on the 2014 WC. Thought yellow for Jorginho was barely acceptable even if my (and probably anyone's) first feeling was red. Think VAR will have talked themselves into not having Kuipers review it, but...

Mean that does look quite interfering enough for me to halt play Particularly coming from here, he's running towards it

Probably as much as the one a few minutes later where he did halt play. Sterling ran a yard past it or something.

I'm especially wondering: wasn't there a second ball on the pitch before Sterling ran into the 18?

Maehle with the *slightest* of touches on Sterling there, not sure if even Makkelie saw that. I'm assuming he gave it for the other rash challenge, although that one made no contact.

We're a minute underway and we've already had a potential SPA (although these have consistently been let off with a warning during this tournament) and two quite rough English fouls. Looking to be feisty, and Makkelie probably the best ref in the world to handle this one. Looking forward to the...

Can't fault Kuipers for getting the final but Cakir has impressed me massively over the last couple of years. Also looks like he could continue for years to come. Then again, I'm also a Turpin fan so my opinions might be iffy on this matter

Kuipers' reds always come from his chest pocket, no wallet to be found though

Often already chuck those under USB for shirt pulling e.g. Would benefit attackers a lot though.

Red card there, what do we think? Can see the argument for both red and yellow, can be EF, but point of contact is back of the foot and not dangerous.

That was Makkelie though

Really like his style of booking, there's not a ref in the world who pulls out his cards faster than him, think he booked Jesus from about 30 yards away. Of course a no-go for our levels but he is so perfectly made for the highest level when he doesn't have to deal with Spanish players. All in...

For there to be a yellow after four minutes in such a game is a miracle in itself. You know someone made a really seriously late tackle for that to happen

Could have been a red after five minutes. Player sort of slips but also jumps in with enough force to warrant a red imo, although realistically I'd probably also give the yellow here. https://streamja.com/6WjdV Initially thought DOGSO, still 50/50 on that one. Agree that Kavanaugh is having a...

That's true, a no call or a foul on Werner do have the same outcome here though: they're obviously wrong and a check for a PK should have been the result. I was just saying that calling the foul the other way leaves no room for interpretation as that is obviously not a foul by Werner. It is...

For both Koulibaly and Werner here, I think the fouls are careless and should be penalties. No way you're letting these slide in midfield and I'm honestly not sure you can get more obvious errors than these. Not in the very least if you're giving the foul against Werner, which is an extremely...

I did, though. Not too weird there's discussion afterwards. Especially on a refereeing forum where those decisions are to be debated