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Never mind the decision, I'm still shocked to see a bald Cakir

That's why the distinction between playing the ball or not would still have to be there, so let's say, playing the ball, PK scored and not reckless - > same as SPA so no card. DOGSO-R -> PK miss - > Red, if not, downgrade to yellow. Problems in law are carding after a restart, but the idea has...

Soooo we've got another example of goalkeepers having serious leeway when challenging in the box. Guy had to go off by ambulance. What do we make of this? I would like to say I'm going PK and SFP here. Or do we think this is just an unfortunate collision? Can see the arguments for both sides...

I.... actually really like this although you'd still have to have the distinction between a challenge for the ball or not. Lots of DOGSOs are a smaller chance to score than a Pk, but I like the idea

Also if Dier handballs it into Firmino? That's my issue with the VAR interference. Had Firmino miscontrolled the ball and then adjusted his bad touch with his hand, yeah sure. Would have been handball, clearly. However with Dier fouling and actually making arm to ball contact, I'm not sure the...

VAR isn't limited to the last offence but to the attacking phase, in which both Firmino's handball and Dier's foul/handball take place. We know for sure Firmino's handball would never be given as a PK is an attacker was all over a defender like that, so that's my major gripe. He doesn't have...

Game ends 3-1, result never really in doubt. Atkinson had a solid game although not a particularly challenging one. I still really like his calm demeanor. I still don't agree with the disallowed goal but that's a different story.

Can't see a reason Salah's goal was chalked off. The handball didn't immediately lead to a goal scoring opportunity and the handball in itself isn't an infraction as Dier elbows it into Firmino's hand. That being said, if you disallow the goal, the proper restart probably is a free kick to...

Gotta say I've done it myself when it's 45:50 and I've no idea who last touched the ball for a throw or corner/goalkick. Also have to admit that on my level, 45" is sometimes already too long for some players so hardly anyone keeps a close watch on what time it really is.

Oh well, doesn't happen often that I'm the dissenting opinion so I'm not too big to admit that maybe it is a pen then :) There's a reason I'm not on that pitch. (or any pitch for the last couple of months really)

You're right on both counts, not UK based and regarding the problem of subjectivity. Happens that I'm fully convinced this isn't a pen, so for me it's clear and obvious, but that sentence is inherently contradictory: how can something be clear and obvious in one's opinion? And yeah, think VAR...

Thought so too, but there isn't. Only visible contact is Pogba clipping Luiz with his left leg, which then causes him to trip himself up. I reaaly think Luiz doesn't even touch Pogba otherwise. Not a dive but certainly not a foul Edit : the fact that two people are fine with the pen probably...

Yet another great example of why (I'm a massive fan of VAR myself) VAR does not really seem to function that fantastically in the PL. For once, I think two clear and obvious cases were missed. Oliver gives PK for a trip on Pogba, although the contact is initiated by Pogba, VAR probably decides...

In the replays you do see him looking at them during the confrontation, I think he's seen it but just not deemed it VC

Lundstrom red, absolutely agree with it. At the same time, don't think I'd have seen/given it on my pitch. Nor am I too sure lower level players expect a red here.

Yeah going pen for that as well

Even if it happens on the line, by making the foul a push/pull, we don't know if the foul ended inside the box if we're dissecting this awful question any further. Should never be asked, even if one is of course often going to go with YC/RC &pen.

My experience from playing at that age is that we always knew what we did. If someone committed DOGSO, anything other than a red would put the ref in a difficult position. At U12 I'd still be in doubt

In NL we don't even code Yellows anymore as they're non-appealable anyway

Most players I ref here in NL don't want the game to be slowed down and most assignors don't mind the procedure not being stuck to as long as the CR knows when to calm things down. Seems like the UK is a bit stuck in the older process, not as if the players don't know what they've done to...