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    City v Newcastle

    My team nudges, bumps and jostles. Your team pushes, charges, and holds. Actually, no, it hasn't been going on forever. PGMOL set a "high bar", supposedly, with plenty of scope for subjective interpretation. Yes, you can grab a shirt, but it isn't necessarily a foul.
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    Forest v Liverpool

    Never mind the close onside call for the Liverpool winner - was the thrown-in before it taken from where the ball went out of play?
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    Hashtag United - "Spin" throw-ins

    I checked. I'm not surprised if referees of a certain age have never seen it... "Advice to referees... See that the player taking the throw-in really uses both hands; some players are apt to throw the ball with one hand only, using the other simply as a guide" (in the 1963 Referees' Chart!)...
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    City v Newcastle

    Oh gosh, another rule change because City have finally caught on to PGMOL's free-for-all policy at set pieces? What if the player starting in an offside position is pushing a defender to try and get back onside?
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    Hashtag United - "Spin" throw-ins

    I'm not checking but I'm fairly sure previous guidance has said you can't propel the ball with one hand using the other as a guide, and that you can't just drop the ball from over your head.
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    Aston Villa v Newcastle

    From 0.57. Defender right in front of AR but Marmoush onside maybe by a yard. I can't account for the commentator's view. Defender may have seen the flag.
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    Aston Villa v Newcastle

    Marmoush had a great goal disallowed wrongly yesterday for offside (Manchester City v Salford). That and the Villa goal seemed clear wrong decisions - whereas most VAR decisions seem to be very close calls. Does that simply mean that PL ARs are now just very good?
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    Man City v Fulham - Hair Pulling

    I think the official PGMOL explanation would be "only glancing contact"...
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    LIV v MCI

    Er - a penalty goal is precisely for situations where the referee judges that a goal would have been certain but for an opponent denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity. I'm not sure how you'd draft it to cover situations like yesterday where "every chance to clear" was only because of the...
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    LIV v MCI

    Imagine it was earlier in the game - first minute rather than last. If Haaland realised the situation, he could have shouted to Szoboszlai - "let it go in or you'll get sent off" and Slob would have had to decide whether to prevent the goal and have his team play with ten men, or go one down...
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    LIV v MCI

    No need to use the word "cheating" at all. It's a foul to redress the consequence of being fouled.
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    LIV v MCI

    And in a match without VAR the ref would "not have seen" Haaland's shirt grab. (As I suspect Mr Pawson chose not to see it.)
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    Tottenham v Man City

    And it includes off-the-ball fouls that aren't quite SPA? (As suggested above) Does anyone really analyse the codes? What distinguishes a foul tackle from a pull, or reckless play from tripping (which would only be a cautionable offence if it was reckless)? And why bother with USB and have to...
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    Tottenham v Man City

    Why has the FA invented an offence not in the laws? The only mention of aggressive in the laws is for sending off offences.
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    Tottenham v Man City

    I think that bypasses the debate so far. I can't imagine a referee signalling advantage when the offence happened a long way from play (maybe only seen by the nearby AR). The breakaway attack continued - call it advantage if you want - but quickly petered out. If the foul (dragging the opponent...
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    Tottenham v Man City

    It happened last night in Arsenal v Chelsea when Cucurella was hauled down off the ball. Mr Banks waited three minutes for the ball to be out of play then just had a very stern word with the offender.
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    Tottenham v Man City

    Re Haaland being rugby tackled to the ground at a corner, my attention has been drawn to Howard Webb's "war on holding": https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/45964800/laws-premier-league-goalkeeper-offside-penalty-refcam-holding (The get-out that it was all before the ball was in play is...
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    Tottenham v Man City

    That's a weird enough explanation to make me suspect you're not a City fan! ;)
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    Tottenham v Man City

    I guess this must have been discussed before, but can you commit SPA by grabbing an opponent off the ball which doesn't actually stop the promising attack? Just straight USB?
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    City v Wolves

    I think we've exhausted this, but.... Sorry if this seems like a fan post - everyone remembers the bad decisions against their team, and I'll go out on a limb and say City have been involved in several decisions which led to clarification of laws, or new ones - like heading the ball off the...
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