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  1. GraemeS

    Trouble in Paradise

    There's nothing innate to rugby that means this could only possibly happen in that sport and cannot possibly happen in football. The above (whether true or not!) is the result of choices made by Rugby's governing bodies, and the spirit and approach to football is the result of choice made in...
  2. GraemeS

    Correct decision

    I think this is close, but still not technically allowed. If the ref saw the player running in and pre-emptively blew the whistle to stop play before any offence actually occurred, I think you can just about justify a non-penalty restart. But that restart should then be a drop ball - to the GK...
  3. GraemeS

    Trouble in Paradise

    And your big headline counter-example is.....someone choosing not to use the system? I mean 1) I think you're hugely exaggerating the extent people like TMO - the argument is that IFAB could easily have just said "we'll do that" but instead, built their own system from the ground-up and came up...
  4. GraemeS

    Trouble in Paradise

    I mean....yes. Frequently. There are some people who will never be placated and some decisions that will be hard to justify to the person they've been given against regardless of what is said. But there are a good number of borderline calls, or those based in more obscure law or offside...
  5. GraemeS

    Trouble in Paradise

    Yes I'm talking about peak international tournament....but so? TMOs are still going to work towards being heard on TV in front of millions of people, I don't really see why it matters that you need to be one level higher in rugby (international) for that to be the case that you do in football...
  6. GraemeS

    Trouble in Paradise

    I mean, quite literally millions of people do watch rugby, at least at international level: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1441433/tv-viewers-six-nations-uk/ The 2023 6 nations tournament had between 3.0 and 4.5million viewers in the UK alone - and rugby may not be the biggest sport in...
  7. GraemeS

    Trouble in Paradise

    I mean, it's remarkably reminiscent of Mike Dean not wanting to send Taylor to the screen for invalid reasons. Obviously not great at all, but also much more in line with that exceptional incident and a long way away from the routine failings of VAR that happen every week.
  8. GraemeS

    OFFINABUS towards AR

    Exactly. Best course of action is to explain what is said and what offence you consider it to be - in most cases the ref can just go with that, but in rare exceptions where the AR may have an unreasonably high bar or may not realise the implications of what was said, the ref needs to have all...
  9. GraemeS

    Team Official Second Caution

    I've always taken that as a provision purely in case the referee forgets his cards, or is a bystander who has stepped in but doesn't have the equipment. Essentially "if you have a yellow card on you, it should be shown to communicate the caution, but if cards aren't available, their absence...
  10. GraemeS

    Match Official Mic'd up

    The independent panel doesn't consist only of referees. If the suggestion is that football doesn't expect a penalty here, that's a problem with the laws that clearly dictate it should be a penalty. And that needs to be either fixed by IFAB or expectations changed by consistent application of...
  11. GraemeS

    Match Official Mic'd up

    So vibes then...
  12. GraemeS

    Match Official Mic'd up

    **** me! Everyone who knows the definition of careless agrees it's careless. Who gives a **** exactly what words I use to describe an obvious careless foul? I'm just going to go back to my magic question that no one can answer. Explain to me like I'm 10 why it isn't clear that it meets that...
  13. GraemeS

    Dropout rates

    The tone makes all the difference there - as written, it could either be hilarious or horrifying!
  14. GraemeS

    Match Official Mic'd up

    Christ people here like getting fixated on exact pieces of terminology. Well, unless that terminology is "careless" I guess... :rolleyes: Fine. What's legitimate about [insert however you would describe doing that at chest height towards an opponent here]?
  15. GraemeS

    Match Official Mic'd up

    What's legitimate about playing a ball at chest height with a studs-first jab of the boot with opponents in proximity? And then going on to actually make contact with that opponent, with the studs, twice?
  16. GraemeS

    Match Official Mic'd up

    It's lost due to the quote system, but "chucks himself in the way" is an extremely uncharitable read of MacAllister's actions. He plays the ball (first I might remind you, not that it's actually vital in law to do so), using a body part that is naturally at the same height as the ball when he...
  17. GraemeS

    Match Official Mic'd up

    So we're back to "vibes" again. The referees and VAR are supposed to work based on the law, and in law this is simply just a careless foul. If the system is "what does Dave who's wandering down the street and has never heard of C/R/UEF think?", what's the point in paying experienced referees...
  18. GraemeS

    Match Official Mic'd up

    I'm sorry, but that's miles too far the other way. There is clear contact, in two places on MacAllister, with the sharp bits on the bottom of Doku's boot that are designed to dig into soft ground. Arguing for "simulation" is nonsense. But even if we take all of that as true, what's the case for...
  19. GraemeS

    Match Official Mic'd up

    I'm not sure we're in a world where "football expects" a player to choose not to play a ball in the opposition penalty area when they're chasing a winning goal. You're asking MacAllister to choose not to do something because of the possibility an opponent might commit a C/R/UEF penal offence...
  20. GraemeS

    OFFINABUS towards AR

    Which is exactly why I hate running a line for a ref who thinks he has a "high tolerance"! All it means is no call after no call followed by eventually having enough and giving a foul or booking that no one expects. And as an AR, you can never know when that "high tolerance" will suddenly...
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