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Junior/Youth Abandoned match and questions from it

Yampy

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Sounds dramatic but thankfully all's well that ends well but, I have some questions from it.

On Sunday morning, I refereed an U15 game which was on the whole well mannered but I could sense it turning a little in the final 15 minutes as the home side were losing by 4 goals. I felt I was on top of it because I could feel something brewing. The situation developed in the 71st minute as the home attached down the left wing and the centre back moved across to defend. The CB gave the attacker a push which appeared to be more about maintaining space between the two that anything else but it was a foul nonetheless. The unbalanced attacking player fell and banged his head on the ground in doing so. The whole thing looked innocuous but the player was in some discomfort. The manager was on the pitch straight away (reportedly effing and jeffing but I didn't hear what was said) but the player needed treatment and I allowed him on. Credit to the players, they remained calm and the situation didn't escalate but it was clear we had a potential head/spinal injury to deal with.

The player received excellent emergency care from the home team and his neck was stabilised and he was kept warm with coats, fleeces and tops without moving him. An ambulance was called and I waited to assess the options. The first responder was there within 15 minutes and after he assessed the injured player I had a quick work with him. Taking his comments on board and judging the general atmosphere, I abandoned the game there and then. There was just under 10 minutes remaining but it didn't seem right to continue after such an incident.

My questions are:-
  1. Was the decision the abandon correct? The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced I was spot on.
  2. In the moments leading to the attack, my CAR had raised his flag for offside which I hadn't seen (opposite sides of the pitch). How do you guys deal with this or improve your game on this? I feel it's a weakness of mine.
  3. The injured player was the son of the home team manager and I am prepared to ignore his charge onto the pitch and his verbal volley due to this relationship but, should I?
  4. There was an accusation that someone had kicked the ball at the prone player in the immediate aftermath but I saw nothing and the home CAR confirmed he saw nothing too. He also stated there were independent witnesses (spectators leaving the field from an adjacent game) who also say there was no such incident. Thoughts?
  5. And finally, I hadn't collected my match fee prior to the game and under the circumstances, I felt it inappropriate to ask for money as the manager is escorting his son into an ambulance. How should I approach getting my match fee from here?
And, as my first line states, the player was treated at A&E and given the all clear.
 
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1 - if you still think it was the right decision then it probably was. I agree if there was a long delay in treatment and looks like a possible serious injury then I agree with abandoning.
2 - as a whole I like CARs as they are doing their bit. Some obviously better than others of course. I think this is always tricky as some are spot on giving their flags. But others may take a few seconds to get that flag up and I personally am shooting them a glance when the ball is played through if I even suspect offside. Obviously sometimes it means my eyes are back following play as I can't stare at them for 5 seconds waiting for a flag that might not come. Sometimes if I really think it was offside (and seeing as as they run wih their own left back even a hint of the attacker being off they'll flag) I'll shoot another look their way a few seconds later in case the flag has gone up.
3 - you originally said you didn't hear what he said so I think you have to let it go. Also if it is a really serious looking injury at youth level I'm personally happy with people coming on the pitch to check them if I haven't got there to asses it. Example from my weekend was a youngster (u11) taking a ball full in the face. She was laid flat out. Both home and away manager ran over, as did I. Turns out she was laying there just laughing about it. But with youth better to be safe than sorry. Plus I think as it was his son you have to give a little bit of slack.
4 - sounds like complete rubbish to me. Invariably I'll hear things like this from every single game. People will always make something out of nothing like this so I'd just ignore it.
5 - I'd suggest speaking to your referee secretary. I'm not actually sure what happens regarding match fee when a game is abandoned. I assume they'll pop it in the post to you.
 
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Beautifully written, David, your clarity and conciseness are to be admired

Pretty much agree with everything that you did and that davemac said
 
DaveMacs got it spot on.


If a player has a potentially serious injury to spine neck or head and ambulance needed then spot on to abandon


With regards to fee, your league should send you a cheque and claim from home team.


Well done for judging the situation and not asking for fee. That's good management of the situation. If your league sec is as good as mine, he will applaud you for that decision and duly pop a cheque in the post.


Well managed by the sound of it. Good refereeing and management mate.


With regards to the comments and ball kicking, ignore it. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. And home manager was probably panicking about his son which is instinct. Unless what he said was racist sexist homophobic etc then I'd ignore it pal.


Top job mate.
 
Thanks for the feedback so far. I had so much buzzing around in my head I wanted a bit of clarity on what I did and if it was right or wrong. Sounds as though, I was correct in what I did and how I approached it. I appreciate what has been said so far.

Incidentally, I was due to ref another game that afternoon but because of the delay (I didn't leave the field until the ambulance had left) I contacted the club and league to cancel my appointment. Even if, I'd had the time to do both, I think I'd have cancelled because I didn't feel I would have the focus after the events of the morning. I guess it's only natural these things affect everyone involved.
 
2 - as a whole I like CARs as they are doing their bit. Some obviously better than others of course. I think this is always tricky as some are spot on giving their flags. But others may take a few seconds to get that flag up and I personally am shooting them a glance when the ball is played through if I even suspect offside. Obviously sometimes it means my eyes are back following play as I can't stare at them for 5 seconds waiting for a flag that might not come. Sometimes if I really think it was offside (and seeing as as they run with their own left back even a hint of the attacker being off they'll flag) I'll shoot another look their way a few seconds later in case the flag has gone up.


Just to add. With my pre match instruction I always tell the CAR to keep the flag up until I see and acknowledge.
 
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