Laws state we can dismiss a manager, club official etc - got that (let's not get into the medical staff intricacies)
...but are there guidelines from anyone (leagues? IFAB?) on what constitutes not acting in a "reasonable manner".
I managed the benches poorly in my match last week. The away team are famously "vocal" and they were on form in that regard on the day. The manager, assistant manager, and trainer all agued loudly and in unison nearly every call. I went over and warned them half way through the 1H and had a chat on the way into the dressing room at HT - I said - look it's getting a bit much calm it down in the 2H or you'll force my hand. I had NARs but AR1 was no match for the bench.
Second half started and they picked up where they left off. To make it worse I awarded the home team a (no brainer) pen and they went up. Short while later play was over near the benches and all three of them are standing having a go at me. Ball went out of play and I went over and.............warned them again. Idiot. I know you can't warn twice, I know I should of binned him there...
My thinking on not dismissing was that if I dismissed the manager the other two would just pick up where he left off and I'd end up having more trouble from them until eventually dismissing the other two. I was also thinking (in-between actually refereeing) - what are the actual guidelines for dismissal? They weren't actually hugely offensive, not really swearing but definitely undermining (worst referee ever, Sunday referee, ruining the game etc etc). Clearly trying to intimidate the referee is part of their game.
Have searched around a bit and it seems to be a matter of "in the opinion of the referee" to dismiss if a club official is not acting in a "reasonable manner"...perhaps someone can point me to some guidelines or share your approach or where you draw the line.
...but are there guidelines from anyone (leagues? IFAB?) on what constitutes not acting in a "reasonable manner".
I managed the benches poorly in my match last week. The away team are famously "vocal" and they were on form in that regard on the day. The manager, assistant manager, and trainer all agued loudly and in unison nearly every call. I went over and warned them half way through the 1H and had a chat on the way into the dressing room at HT - I said - look it's getting a bit much calm it down in the 2H or you'll force my hand. I had NARs but AR1 was no match for the bench.
Second half started and they picked up where they left off. To make it worse I awarded the home team a (no brainer) pen and they went up. Short while later play was over near the benches and all three of them are standing having a go at me. Ball went out of play and I went over and.............warned them again. Idiot. I know you can't warn twice, I know I should of binned him there...
My thinking on not dismissing was that if I dismissed the manager the other two would just pick up where he left off and I'd end up having more trouble from them until eventually dismissing the other two. I was also thinking (in-between actually refereeing) - what are the actual guidelines for dismissal? They weren't actually hugely offensive, not really swearing but definitely undermining (worst referee ever, Sunday referee, ruining the game etc etc). Clearly trying to intimidate the referee is part of their game.
Have searched around a bit and it seems to be a matter of "in the opinion of the referee" to dismiss if a club official is not acting in a "reasonable manner"...perhaps someone can point me to some guidelines or share your approach or where you draw the line.
