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Mr Dean

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Anyone know why Michael Oliver has been given a second FA Cup final? When did the FA change their policy of one final per referee?
 
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He had a brilliant game and a non refereeing note, how good is it to have fans back? Unbelievable
 
Anyway, not wishing to bang on aboot VAR again too much. I understand the value of the game (TV Rights) has taken a drop throughout Europe. Maybe that'll get someone's attention. Nothing else matters a jot
 
VAR uses cameras than run at 50 frames per second, with one picture taken every 0.02 seconds.

When an offside decision is being deliberated, VAR must choose the frame which proves with certainty that the ball has been touched. If Frame A shows the boot not touching the ball, then VAR must select the next one in which the ball has definitely been touched.

But the actual first point of contact will be somewhere between the frames. And in that time, a player can move from onside to offside.

This means there is a margin for error, and it varies depending on the speed of the attackers and defenders.

Based on the fastest speed recorded in the Premier League last season - 21.75mph (35kmh) - that margin could be as big as 38.8cm.

So, if a player is found to be offside by less than the margin, the VAR can’t be sure whether they were offside or not at the moment the ball was played.

Reports claim that lawmakers are already considering reviewing VAR’s offside system.

Clearly, something needs to be done.
 
VAR uses cameras than run at 50 frames per second, with one picture taken every 0.02 seconds.

When an offside decision is being deliberated, VAR must choose the frame which proves with certainty that the ball has been touched. If Frame A shows the boot not touching the ball, then VAR must select the next one in which the ball has definitely been touched.

But the actual first point of contact will be somewhere between the frames. And in that time, a player can move from onside to offside.

This means there is a margin for error, and it varies depending on the speed of the attackers and defenders.

Based on the fastest speed recorded in the Premier League last season - 21.75mph (35kmh) - that margin could be as big as 38.8cm.

So, if a player is found to be offside by less than the margin, the VAR can’t be sure whether they were offside or not at the moment the ball was played.

Reports claim that lawmakers are already considering reviewing VAR’s offside system.

Clearly, something needs to be done.
Yes. We've been talking about this since VAR was introduced.
So what we need to do is stop the game for 5 minutes whilst the VAR calculates how fast the player was moving, between the frames to determine a variable margin of error. And then measure, precisely, how far offside the player is to determine if that margin is breached. All the while not actually improving the accuracy of the decision we arrived at anyway. 🤙
I'm with Alex, based on the evidence available it was offside.. Great goal.. Great save. Congratulations Leicester. (also neutral).
 
No, based on a guess at one line that we can’t see we’ve all been hoodwinked into believing the evidence shown as100% correct! The margin is too fine to be definitive, so, on this occasion it should have been a goal! I forgot the two saves, yes KS was excellent!
 
that margin could be as big as 38.8cm.
Only if the attacker and defender are both running in opposite directions at 21.75mph. If the attacker is running at that speed and the defender is stationary, the maximum margin of error is 19.4cm. If both are moving in the same direction (which is usually the case) that decreases even more. And most players can't run at that speed, decreasing the margin of error even further.
 
Only if the attacker and defender are both running in opposite directions at 21.75mph. If the attacker is running at that speed and the defender is stationary, the maximum margin of error is 19.4cm. If both are moving in the same direction (which is usually the case) that decreases even more. And most players can't run at that speed, decreasing the margin of error even further.
Agree, so you accept nearly 200mm of error and VAR has decided it by much, much less than that!!! Whatever happened to benefit of the doubt and 99% success rate of decisions?
 
Agree, so you accept nearly 200mm of error and VAR has decided it by much, much less than that!!! Whatever happened to benefit of the doubt and 99% success rate of decisions?
Is less of a margin of error than we were getting with assistant referees on the sideline.
 
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