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Hmm more DRP for me. Ignoring a ref is not necessarily publicndisagreement with refs decision.
Thinking about grassroots impact.
If you go dissent he is sin binned for 10 mins rather than dismissed.
I wonder if he made other subs go off at nearest point too...
 
Does it to deliberately waste time. First ignores the instruction, then slows down to applaud the crowd.
 
Tealeaf said:
Does it to deliberately waste time. First ignores the instruction, then slows down to applaud the crowd.
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Didn't notice him slow down, he clapped yes, but not slowed down.
By the time he got the instruction he was a third of the way in the centre circle.
No need for the ref to go that far really. It's not liked he walked.
 
I get the time wasting bit but this was standard fayre for donkeys years. Glad they clamped down on it, keepers ruses next, the dead ball time waste and 6 second rules are hardly ever implemented.
 
ladbroke8745 said:
Didn't notice him slow down, he clapped yes, but not slowed down.
By the time he got the instruction he was a third of the way in the centre circle.
No need for the ref to go that far really. It's not liked he walked.
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By that logic, you'll be agreeing with the player who says, 'well no one said I couldn't punch him'. Players should know and abide by the laws.
 
The referee is correct in law, but I'm not sure his coach is going to be praising him. One of those where you need to look at why the law was brought in, and it was to stop timewasting where a player about to be subbed is sent to the far touchline and then ambles off to waste time. I don't believe his team was winning here and may have even been losing, and he certainly wasn't ambling off and was moving reasonably quickly.

Once the referee tells him to go off the other side he has to comply, but I'm not sure he needed to tell him. By the time he does this it would almost certainly be quicker to let him run off to the technical areas than get him to stop, and then explain that he has to go off the other side.
 
Really tricky for the referee this one. The law has only been introduced this season and if it's not properly enforced now it never will be. Also, assuming he is being observed, to 'turn a blind eye' to a player running right across the centre circle would act as a red rage to the more bullish of Observers! However, in the end, it results in him looking a little officious or over zealous. Damned if you do or if you don't unfortunately ....
 
RustyRef said:
The referee is correct in law, but I'm not sure his coach is going to be praising him. One of those where you need to look at why the law was brought in, and it was to stop timewasting where a player about to be subbed is sent to the far touchline and then ambles off to waste time. I don't believe his team was winning here and may have even been losing, and he certainly wasn't ambling off and was moving reasonably quickly.

Once the referee tells him to go off the other side he has to comply, but I'm not sure he needed to tell him. By the time he does this it would almost certainly be quicker to let him run off to the technical areas than get him to stop, and then explain that he has to go off the other side.
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I get what you are saying about the intention behind the law but I've already seen too many examples of officials failing to implement it and if we go down the path of 'Well let's ignore it this time' then before too long it ends up as one of those things that is in the laws but no one expects to see penalised (goalkeepers having hold of the ball for more than six seconds, etc.)]

I certainly think that once the referee asks the player to go off at the nearest touchline and the player ignores him then the referee has to take some action. Perhaps the referee could have done more to explain the situation and get him off at the right point, I'm not sure.
 
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Viking said:
Do you not think the Referee's authority is diminished if he does nothing?
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I do anyway.

The decision seems to have been well-received by the public, lots of praise for this on various social media platforms.
 
ladbroke8745 said:
Didn't notice him slow down, he clapped yes, but not slowed down.
By the time he got the instruction he was a third of the way in the centre circle.
No need for the ref to go that far really. It's not liked he walked.
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Agree - silly decision. Players go off slower than that EVERY week in the games I see in the Championship. In fact on Saturday, Mr Hooper allowed a QPR player to amble off across the pitch and then, because Blackburn players moaned about it, he made the next QPR subbed player go off at the touchline - whereby he received a standing ovation from 3 sides of the ground as he strolled off milking the applause. In Mr Hooper's defence I should say he had an excellent match and didn't put a foot wrong. My issue with this is that had it been an away player walking round QPR's ground where the front row is less than 2 metres away from the player, the reception would not have been so good!
 
Methinks that the refs are getting instructions on what they are expected to do on these, not just making it up themselves.
 
Sheffields Finest said:
I like the new sub rule but was unaware that it was cardable for ignoring and doing it the old way,,!!
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Definitely cardable. According to the explanations of laws changes issued by the IFAB:
To stop a player who is being substituted ‘wasting’ time by leaving slowly at the
halfway line (which is not a Law requirement) the player must leave at the nearest
point (as with an injury) unless the referee indicates otherwise, e.g. if the player can
leave quickly at the halfway line, there is a safety/security issue or the player leaves
on a stretcher. The player must go immediately to the technical area or dressing room
to avoid problems with substitutes, spectators, or the match officials. A player who infringes the spirit of this Law should be sanctioned for unsporting behaviour i.e. delaying the restart of play.
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Peter Grove said:
Definitely cardable. According to the explanations of laws changes issued by the IFAB:
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I don't think the player was infringing the spirit of the law in this case because he was promptly running to leave the FOP
I think this Law change would've been better if it had given the referee the option to insist that the player departed at the nearest point. The existing Law change is unmanageable and unnecessary for most us
 
Big Cat said:
The existing Law change is unmanageable and unnecessary for most us
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On my Saturday league, you are expected to run to the touchline and take numbers of subs when working alone. By the time you've got to the touchline and figured out who is coming off, it is nearly always worthless getting them to leave at the nearest point, they are already in the centre circle etc.
 
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