So, please distinguish whern he relinquishes control after his deliberate parry, is it a distance thing, or a timed thing or is it open season
So, please distinguish whern he relinquishes control after his deliberate parry, is it a distance thing, or a timed thing or is it open season
Yes several times. Every time after the game the keeper has said to me "I usually get away with that..."Anyone ever given a FK for a clear 'parry' and pick up..... That can brighten up a cold November morning. Goalkeepers don't expect that one to be called!
No, technically he's not allowed to pounce on the ball. By parrying the ball the keeper has gained possession of the ball and immediately released that possession and so he is not allowed to pick it up.Again mate, I may be being a bit thick here, but the GK has always been able to parry a shot from an opponent and then "pounce" on the ball or pick it up. Besides, there's contradiction in your post above. It says if the GK parries, he's considered to be "in possession" of the ball and therefore logic suggests that he hasn't actually yet released it and so is quite within his rights to collect after any "parry". ....
I dunno to be honest. But your previous post says:
possession of the ball includes the goalkeeper deliberately parrying the
ball"
So, to me, that means that from the second he "parries" it, he's considered to be in possession of it and therefore I ask how can he be penalised for picking the ball up or holding it (cos it's the same thing) when he's already in possession of it?
I'll be honest, it's not something I've had cause to make a decision on before, but to penalise the GK after having stopped a shot from an opponent seems very strange to me...?
When I've had a few less ciders, ( sorry ) I'll consult a few colleagues and read up on the LOTG myself regarding this scenario but as it stands, the notion of penalising the GK for that feels a bit odd to me.
And even when you do the IFAB bring in 93 changes in one sittingThere's me a thick Yorkie journeyman plodder out-nerding some of the top brains of the refereeing fraternity, well, this Parish anyway.... Never stop learning..... When you stop, you'll think you know everything, and you truly don't....
Interestingly enough, in the new edition of the laws there is no mention of parrying the ball so starting in two days' time it's no longer a distinction that needs to be made.The grey area is what is the difference between a save and a parry,
So does that mean that a GK can pick the ball up after parrying?Interestingly enough, in the new edition of the laws there is no mention of parrying the ball so starting in two days' time it's no longer a distinction that needs to be made.
No, what it means is that there is no such thing as parrying any more as far as the law is concerned. It's either a save, or it isn't.So does that mean that a GK can pick the ball up after parrying?
An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:
touches the ball with the hands after [...] releasing it and before it has touched another player
[...]
A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball when: the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds accidentally from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save