A Freethinker
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furry cup? more than likely the greasy pole you would be drinking from in the FA?...As you rise the greasy pole you'd obviously be expected to sip from the FA furry cup, thank god I never got that thirsty!!
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furry cup? more than likely the greasy pole you would be drinking from in the FA?...As you rise the greasy pole you'd obviously be expected to sip from the FA furry cup, thank god I never got that thirsty!!
We do over here in Norn Iron! Any standard of ref can wear whatever brand/make/colour of kit they like to avoid clashes, especial given the number of teams who now have a black kit! Additional expense as per GraemeS is down to how much you want to spend you can get last season's on line relatively cheaply or get them from China and get you Association badge added. I have 6 Umbro Blue, Pink, Orange, Black long and short sleeved, 7 adidas green, navy, light blue, orange, two yellow and again mix of long and short sleeves so easy on match day just throw three colours in a bag and head to game, no worries about clashes.Spookily, the FA have today asked the County FAs to see if there is a desire for referees to wear coloured kits. To this end, I have just received a questionnaire and will be confirming my agreement with the proposed change.
I think it's a great debate, and we all know that eventually this will get implemented. It's just whether it is this season or next, and you're right there are lots of details to sort out. It's a shame the questionnaire doesn't offer more options as I think this should be more detailed to include what levels it applies to, how the kits would be funded etc.
The next great debate is going to be about referees wearing shirt and ties to matches, I know the FA are looking at this on Supply and Contrib Leagues. But that's a whole new can of worms.
By trying to restrict the discussion to just this question, I think you're ignoring important context.Understood, but again this misses the actual key point of the questionnaire - it asks if you would like to be permitted to wear another colour.
It doesn't say you have to, must, will be forced to, etc. In 2 options of Q3 it says black is the over-riding primary choice for most games. So in your scenario above, the three officials just wear black as they don't match on any other colour. I struggle to understand how we reach a conclusion that all three officials are wearing different colours when clearly they will all have a black kit anyway.
People seem to be extrapolating a generic 'option' into something they have to do when that's clearly not the intention. Don't want the kit, fine keep in black. But you have the choice.
And on another point, I think non-black will actually attract youngsters to the game.
I totally agree, never have and never will wear a bib.... I have in the past made a keeper change his colours cos his shirt was black, luckily away team had a second colour shirt they borrowed to him........Oh dear. Never, ever wear a bib
Agree.... yuk!Not for me, they are bleeding awful!!
That's a fair point Graeme and yes I am sure we will see the all-black kit appearing as a result.
I did add this point in the Notes on the questionnaire as I wanted to understand how it work if the referee didn't want to buy a coloured shirt. One would hope the FA would make it clear that the referee has 'priority' on kit and if the ref is in black, the team isn't, or they do not allow black kits for a period of x years while the changes bed in.
Alternatively, as the ref would now be allowed to wear non-black, then he would be ok to wear a bib.![]()
That isn't part of the proposal. If it is voted in that teams can wear black kits then this will come in from next season, and referees will be expected to have kits that mean they don't clash with these teams.
how the kits would be funded etc.
The next great debate is going to be about referees wearing shirt and ties to matches, I know the FA are looking at this on Supply and Contrib Leagues. But that's a whole new can of worms.
Then someone needs to get a crow bar and prise some kit money out of the local FA's..........
Well they'll be disappointed to find I'll be officiating in any colour they want . Just as long as its black!As the York League is a supply league, the league could not find the coloured kits. Additionally, we sometimes have to appoint mid- week due to unavailability, so is the Ref Sec going to have to appoint ARs on kit colour as well;-)
It will be the referee that has to fund. The best option is that teams cannot have black & yellow kits as alternatives. Referees will always have a simple choice - black or yellow.
The referees who do these games are generally money hunters who will stand in the centre circle all game.
I see where you are coming from, why change things that aren't broken, however, to not change something because it's always been done that way doesn't make sense.
This is the biggest stumbling block imho. Who is going to pay for the extra shirts?I agree with that sentiment in general, and I have no objection to wearing coloured shirts, but in this particular case there is the unresolved question of who is going to pay for all the extra referee shirts. It seems like a lot of expense for not much gain.