I was with clients last night in the Crewe area, I've seen the goal highlights and the slightly dubious winner, was it used at all, any feedback??
Ok it's not an obvious mistake but only because the footage is inconclusive. This is a VAR fail for me. It could have been a handball. We don't know. VAR doesn't know based on the footage I have seen. Makes a nonsense of it. And this was a tame game in a half empty stadium that both teams seemed to play as if content to lose.
This is already going the same way as the shabby experience in Oz and the states
Have you got a link to those replays?Why was it a fail? The VAR did review it as all goals are reviewed before play restarts. He decided that the ball didn't hit the arm, and even if it had then it would have been a massive push to class it as intentional, so he was right not to alert Andre Marriner to a potential problem. Subsequent replays by BT showed that there was definitely no handling, so I'm really struggling to see how it was a fail ...
- Correct decision reached
- Game not unnecessarily delayed
Have you got a link to those replays?
What I understood was that it was inconclusive at the time. And there was no explanation at the time.
That's weird because what I saw was that it was inconclusive and what I am reading in my choice of (online) newspaper is that it was inconclusive...Don't have a replay, but they showed it time and time again in the post match analysis and there was no touch. It did hit his knee which is what made it change direction.
That's weird because what I saw was that it was inconclusive and what I am reading in my choice of (online) newspaper is that it was inconclusive...
I think we need a proper tasty derby game to really give it a good test.
You can't possibly implement it any worse than in Australia. Driven so many people away from the game - and it's amazing just how biased it's made the referees look as well; I've never heard so many people utterly convinced the game is rigged.Once this genie is out of the bottle you cant put it back....I think this will end in tears but here goes.....
I heard an interview today from ex ref saying the system is generally used one game in 3/4..... Knowing how the UK Leagues work and the pressure involved, I bet this is used 3-4 times per match and methodically pulled apart for weeks after....VAR-EXTRA Thoughts??
It depends what the VAR is supposed to do. My understanding is that they exist to prevent "obvious" mistakes, particularly with the TV viewers and after-match punditry in mind if we're being honest. If it's a borderline handball that can't be described as "clearly wrong" with the pictures that the TV channels have, not getting involved and therefore keeping the match flowing is the best possible outcome.It wasn't a success for the VAR if the VAR couldn't tell if there was a handball or not.
EDIT: Of course tonight has another example. DOGSO outside the PA. Very easy red. Inexplicably (yet, given the standard down here, not surprisingly) a yellow card is given. Eventually the VAR is involved, ref goes over to the little screen, spends way longer than he needs to watching, changes it to a red.
Issues
- VAR shouldn't have been needed. Ref should be getting the decision right
- Process was way too long again
- After the debacle a few weeks ago where the VAR was unashamedly one-sided and made a number of wrong decisions (of course, so did the ref)....the FFA actually changed their rules to state that the VAR can't be involved in changing a yellow to a red. Which is exactly what happened here.
So, even when the VAR gets it right it still gets it wrong!!