depends on a lot but I'd treat it as the same incidence of dissent, if you are able to verbally tell him he's due a caution and sin bin then it's a double offence and he cannot return but can be substituted IIRC. (assuming he has no other cautions yet). it will depend on the double offenceInspired by another post.
Player comments a sin bin offence, you play advantage and he commits another sin bin offence.
What's the sanctions?
I think I agree with this actually. I had this idea of being fair to the player by only having them dismissed if they had been warned but I wouldn’t not give a second yellow if it was a different offence so think you’re bang on about option 1.The core point is when does the sin bin start?
If it's when the ref thinks "that's a sin bin" then this is covered by the idea that he has committed a further offence during a temporary dismissal period, which means he's done for the game and cannot be replaced, effectively a red card (although we don't show a red card because....?)
On the other hand, if you consider it to be when the card is shown, I think you have to treat it as two separate cautions. There's no reason they would be served sequentially, so I think you send them to the side for 10 minutes, after which they can be replaced.
The law says "A temporary dismissal is when a player commits a cautionable offence and is punished by an immediate suspension[...]", so for me, option 1 is most correct, but I'm open to arguments for 2.
Or, you take options 3 - treat it all as one incident of dissent and just give them 10 minutes. Or option 4 - decide it's risen to the level of OFFINABUS and show a straight red, depending on what's been said.
IMHO, this is almost always the right answer. I can craft scenarios where the double sanction would be appropriate, but they aren’t particularly plausible.Given that the only sin bin offence in competitions I officiate on is Dissent, there’s no way in the world I’m surprising everyone with a double-whammy decision. I can justify it to myself as one prolonged burst of dissent. Should the player escalate that into OFFINABUS before I’ve got back to him with the yellow and a 10-minute sit down, then that’s on him and entirely justified for me to go red instead.
The question I asked myself when thinking about the OP was “what would my game expect”, and I’m sure that’s how I would deal with it in the scenario described above.