Could try a four card trick? Two yellows for dissent = .red plus red for offinabus?
Technically not possible. Once shown the second yellow the player is now a sent off player and the red is for the second yellow. Anything said after the second yellow is a incident/misconduct and should be reported as such.
Hi
Had a situation today , calls player over to have a quiet word to tell him to calm down yet he refused to come over to me after telling him twice more i said I was now cautioning him for dissent and if he did not come to me I would show him a second for dissent , he finally came over to me and after showing him the yellow card he said “ have you finished now if you have f..k o.. out my face so now issued a red , would anybody have done this different ? Also what happens if after telling him that I was cautioning him for dissent he still wouldn’t come and I decided to caution again would I show the yellow twice then red or just Yellow then red ?
Technically your cards were reasonable and you did everything right. From a player management point of view, I am not so sure. If you wanted him to get himself sent off for some reason or another then there is no issue with what you did.
Most referees I know would want to keep players on the pitch if possible. That is when player management techniques come in.
Often when you want to talk to a player, he has done something wrong, is already in a heightened state of mind and not thinking straight. They are full of adrenaline in tense game situations. When calling players over, you have already started a public warning process. In his mind, you are asking him to walk to you so you can give him a bollocking. Getting a bollocking in front of his team mates is bad enough, having to walk to it? He is not thinking about consequences. He is thinking about not being humiliated. He eventually comes over, he gets a talking to and a yellow. Humiliation complete. He now doesn't care if he gets sent off. He has to get his own back. Luckily in most cases its only a verbal. He does and you do what you have to do.
While your send off was correct, you could have done things differently to
possibly avoid sending him off (doesn't always work but you try). Using the captain as pointed out above is one way. If you want to have a
quiet word run past him, don't attract anybody else's attention. They are more likely to listen if no one else is looking (pride is a strange thing). As you are going past him say something like "calm down mate.... what you did is not on"
Alternatively if you want to make it public, start walking towards him as you are asking him to come to you. That way if he refuses, it doesn't look like you are going to him because he refused. You were already walking that way anyway. Once you are there you can give him a bollocking. But in this situation (when he refused to come to you) I would go for a yellow, no words (unless you have to ask his name) and get out of there as soon as you can. Record the yellow and run past the captain to ask him to calm the player down or his second yellow is not too far away.