Looks damning... have you got video?
Let me put forward this.....
How many players know the LOTG and their interpretations? How many managers/coaches? How many of them THINK they know but are in fact wrong? How many times do players think they were fouled but in fact were not? I'd be curious how many GK's know that someone blocking their line of sight several yards in front of them could be considered offside?
I wouldn't recommend protests or lack thereof be given any weight.
It's all about the balance of probability. Most GK's will appeal for offside in any number of situations. If one makes no complaint in a situation like this then most likely his view was unimpeded. Given that neither referee nor AR will often be well placed to judge exactly the GK's line of sight, you need to use all the other info available to you ....Let me put forward this.....
How many players know the LOTG and their interpretations? How many managers/coaches? How many of them THINK they know but are in fact wrong? How many times do players think they were fouled but in fact were not? I'd be curious how many GK's know that someone blocking their line of sight several yards in front of them could be considered offside?
I wouldn't recommend protests or lack thereof be given any weight.
Have you read the definition of "interfering with an opponent" in the laws of the game? There are a lot more referees who don't understand it than those who do. Expecting a goal keeper to understand it is a bit of a stretch. I would read between the lines when given those instructionsI'm with @es1 on this one. In fact, in the pre match briefing for my Contrib game last weekend, the referee covered exactly this scenario with the advice that "If no one, especially the GK, is appealing, then we can be confident the 'offside' player didn't interfere and therefore we just crack on'
I have . Now that I'm spending more time on the line than in the middle, I thought I should .Have you read the definition of "interfering with an opponent" in the laws of the game? There are a lot more referees who don't understand it than those who do. Expecting a goal keeper to understand it is a bit of a stretch. I would read between the lines when given those instructions
It's all about the balance of probability. Most GK's will appeal for offside in any number of situations. If one makes no complaint in a situation like this then most likely his view was unimpeded. Given that neither referee nor AR will often be well placed to judge exactly the GK's line of sight, you need to use all the other info available to you ....
I half agree. If I'm in the middle, then if I'm certain that a player impeded the GK's vision, I will consult my AR about whether he was in an offside position and if he was, give the free kick. If I'm not certain and there's no appeals then back to the middle for the kick off we go. In some ways it's a bit like the 'Leave It' old chestnut ... the offense is all about whether the words / action ACTUALLY interfered with an opponent and therefore player reaction is ONE of the factors to consider when reaching your decisionI find a gk reaction can be an after thought. When we see top keepers on tv losing a goal, they firstly seem upset with themselves then secondly seem to find a defender to pick on, that they should have cleared it, or tracked the runner, or filled the hole, or any other pundits phrase
I would be wary of waiting to see if goalie doth ptotest too much before considering a potential offside offence.
Unless you are going to apply the same principles for dogso? The striker never slumped to the floor squeeling "last man last man" so you never even thought of a red card?
The total opposite is indeed a keeper/captain who screams for everything even when its clear as day its the other teams throw? Of course that gk is going to clutch at any offside straw. Would or should we take heed?
Imo firmly, no
Again, no one is saying that. You've taken a rational point, extended it too far and then cried about how insane that extended version is.I find a gk reaction can be an after thought. When we see top keepers on tv losing a goal, they firstly seem upset with themselves then secondly seem to find a defender to pick on, that they should have cleared it, or tracked the runner, or filled the hole, or any other pundits phrase
I would be wary of waiting to see if goalie doth ptotest too much before considering a potential offside offence.
Unless you are going to apply the same principles for dogso? The striker never slumped to the floor squeeling "last man last man" so you never even thought of a red card?
The total opposite is indeed a keeper/captain who screams for everything even when its clear as day its the other teams throw? Of course that gk is going to clutch at any offside straw. Would or should we take heed?
Imo firmly, no
Again, no one is saying that. You've taken a rational point, extended it too far and then cried about how insane that extended version is.
Is it strange if a player is offside and no defender or GK appeals for it? Of course it is. Should we as referees use all possible clues to help us reach the right decision? Of course we should.
Does that means entirely basing a decision (any decision) on the reaction of the players? Of course it doesn't. Be that DOGSO, a throw in, or anything in between.
I'm not getting riled up or anything here. This is a logical fallacy that YOU keep falling into, it's relevant to point out that you've made the same mistake here with your argument that you've made elsewhere.You again with the personal references? "You've" and "again" implying that I, me personally am doing something
Cried?
Mate can I suggest you simply block me or simply dont quote my posts, because to me your only motive here is personal
The posts the other day should have leaned you to a, discuss the post, not the poster mentality
It sunk in for me, clearly not for you however.