What are the experts saying about this offside call?
Tells you something as the ref when you don't even bother to glance at the assistant, if he'd seen the flag straight away I think he's more likely to wave it down. By the time he's seen flag probably forgot what happened in the build-up.Thats on the referee. The end
Thats a familiar looking ground!I think that this has good claim to be the worst...
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As Observer for a promotion candidate 5>4 match there, I was the only person in the stand when the players and officials lined up for the Respect handshake facing the stand.Thats a familiar looking ground!
I'm there this coming Thursday, might be a few more people in that stand!As Observer for a promotion candidate 5>4 match there, I was the only person in the stand when the players and officials lined up for the Respect handshake facing the stand.
I resisted the royal wave option and remained seated, looking down at my notes
My fear is it's not a brain freeze and the same AR would call the same situation for lack of knowledge of what constitutes an offside offence.I'm not sure what threads like this add to the mix. It's a brain freeze call. Shrug. Happens.
Wow. Notes before kick off. Poor refAs Observer for a promotion candidate 5>4 match there, I was the only person in the stand when the players and officials lined up for the Respect handshake facing the stand.
I resisted the royal wave option and remained seated, looking down at my notes
The AR in this instance knows exactly what an offside offence is. He was convinced that when the ball was played that the attacker was in the opposing half.My fear is it's not a brain freeze and the same AR would call the same situation for lack of knowledge of what constitutes an offside offence.
By the way, op vid is 3 years old and doing its second round on this forum.
My fear is it's not a brain freeze and the same AR would call the same situation for lack of knowledge of what constitutes an offside offence.
More likely just a combination of the flash lag effect, and the fact that the speed of sound is slower than the speed of light, meaning that the AR will hear the kick of the ball later and the attacker will have covered more distance.My fear is it's not a brain freeze and the same AR would call the same situation for lack of knowledge of what constitutes an offside offence.
By the way, op vid is 3 years old and doing its second round on this forum.
The AR in this instance knows exactly what an offside offence is. He was convinced that when the ball was played that the attacker was in the opposing half.
Nope. Brain freeze is all there. The AR just thinks the ball is actually played later than it is. Only takes a second for a player to cover 7-8 yards when they're at full tilt.
Are we talking about the same clip? My comment was on the OP.More likely just a combination of the flash lag effect, and the fact that the speed of sound is slower than the speed of light, meaning that the AR will hear the kick of the ball later and the attacker will have covered more distance.
We were speaking about the second clipAre we talking about the same clip? My comment was on the OP.
Agree - first one is incorrect in law and referee needs to establish why the AR has flagged.One of the challenges I have seen in recent times is that many referees accept every offside flag. In the first clip it could not be offside just perhaps maybe a player in an offside position. I like many others have been there on incorrect flags and its a wave down with play continuing. Before the kick off or restart its simply going across to the AR and asking what he saw and then awarding the goal. As an observer I would be on the referee's case as to why it was not a wave down. I think that's a bigger error
On the 2nd one its a misjudgement by the AR. Generally caused by poor positioning and lack of concentration. If stood on the halfway line it should be an easy spot that its not offside at the moment the ball was played.
The first offside call is worse as it is not a judgement call, its not knowing Law 11.