Me waiting for the whining to begin after every City game. It’s becoming torturous if I’m being honest!
Man City v spurs
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You're correct of course, he did see it and seen it ok, I'd still disagree that that's the right approach though!
The attempted punch thing, was an attempted punch = RC
The Sissoko thing was too much for careless and was therefore reckless. Not enough for SFP
The Sterling thing was a gimme YC
I don't care about either team, quite literally!
Oh yeh.... and if there is an agenda against City, it's probably because there's a direct correlation between Premier League position and cheating nous
(which in turn results in promotion to Champions League cheating nous)
The Sissoko thing was too much for careless and was therefore reckless. Not enough for SFP
The Sterling thing was a gimme YC
I don't care about either team, quite literally!
Oh yeh.... and if there is an agenda against City, it's probably because there's a direct correlation between Premier League position and cheating nous
(which in turn results in promotion to Champions League cheating nous)
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It was not an attempted punch! People don't punch like that. People tend to look at others before they punch them! It was ridiculous but it wasn't an attempted punch. If it was, the players,coaches and officials would have reacted accordingly and not one of them reacted one iota, which tells you all you need to know
Like the ref, 'they' all missed it
What was it then? My card count is extremely low, but I wouldn't hesitate to dismiss this 'attempted strike'
I say that, but what i really mean is, 'I'd expect this to be violent contact in the professional game'
If this happened in a really tame youth game, maybe a 3 game ban wouldn't fit the crime, but if it happened in a difficult OA game, I'd like to think I'd react accordingly. If I didn't, other players looking on would likely take it as a green light for mayhem
It's easy to say what the right decision is for a televised game, but I'm aware that many factors come into play when we take to the pitch
(You know ur losing the plot when u start replying to your own messages btw)
What was it then? Change the word punch to strike and it’s a nailed on red card
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Just to clarify not all attempts to strike are red. This one is because it also qualifies as VC due to the manner it was done. You can say he didn't actually mean to punch him, but should not matter as it is still an act of violance.
There was a FIFA futuro educational video from a world cup game a few years back. A player (from an African country I think) attempted to kick an appointment in retaliation. A similar way to this game and the decision was given as red card. There wasn't even a swing in it. He lifted one leg on the spot with a bent knee and strghtent it with the studs pointing towards and close to an opponent.
He throws his arm out and shouts in a fit of frustration. He didn't strike or attempt to strike an opponent. Everybody on that pitch and in the dug out saw it the same way. Maybe YHTBT but that's the way I saw it and everybody there at the time. I've not seen a player try to punch another in the PL for a very long time, it just doesn't happen.
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That's a bit like the Spurs fans booing Sterling because he got injured by a "reckless" tackle.
Are people really believing that jumping on an opponent's ankle isn't a red but swinging an arm toward an opponent and missing by a mile should be?
Who cares? That's football fans for you ... Aaron Ramsey still gets booed by Stoke fans because he broke his leg on their pitch
I'm with @Big Cat with this. I don't see the 'jumping on an opponents ankle' at all. I see a player trying to predict the direction of Sterlings movement, getting it wrong but not making a challenge, just accidentally standing on the back of his ankle in his stride. Ok, it looks nasty in slow motion but I'm going reckless, maybe even careless for that one.
It looks nasty in slow motion because it was nasty. Not being able to predict the opponent's movement - isn't that the whole point of penalising a player who jumps at an opponent? Anyway, I'll be grateful that at least you'd call it as a foul, unlike Mr Friend.
As for Mendy, it was wild, but if we're being semantic the law says "strike". He was actually struck three times on the back of the head by an opponent, and then attempted to strike the opponent.
Anyway, I wasn't really trying to defend Mendy, just amazed that most of you are stern about that but blasé about an action that could have caused serious injury (and yes, I know it's only Sterling). And I really don't buy the idea it was accidental. It's not like Sissoko is above that sort of thing.
As for Mendy, it was wild, but if we're being semantic the law says "strike". He was actually struck three times on the back of the head by an opponent, and then attempted to strike the opponent.
Anyway, I wasn't really trying to defend Mendy, just amazed that most of you are stern about that but blasé about an action that could have caused serious injury (and yes, I know it's only Sterling). And I really don't buy the idea it was accidental. It's not like Sissoko is above that sort of thing.
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As I said above, I don't see any kind of 'jumping'. I see a player standing on the ankle of Sterling in his stride which is why I think it's reckless rather than SFP. In my opinion, it's no different to when players run across the front of attackers to block a shot etc and accidentally stand on their toes.
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STERLING delaying restart YELLOW
SISSOKO on STERLING YELLOW could have been RED
MENDY YELLOW could have been RED
SISSOKO on STERLING YELLOW could have been RED
MENDY YELLOW could have been RED
SFP - A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. I don't believe there to be a challenge or tackle. I think he was clumsy in his stride and falls into the 'commits in a reckless manner a direct free kick offence'
Mendy could go either way but at a minimum there should have been a booking for AA. I'm also going red for this one though, it was a clear act of brutality towards Lamela and it doesn't state in the LOTG that the recipient of VC has to be within 'striking distance'. Was his swing excessive force?100%. Was it an attempt to strike? It certainly looked like it. Lamela on the other hand, was it excessive force or brutality? Not in the slightest
You've been watching too many slo-mo's
Where Sissoko is involved, if he went for the player, he'd get the ball. In attempting to get the ball, he hacked the player. He was frustrating at NUFC, Lord knows how he gets in the Spurs team. He's clumsy, end of
As I was rightfully corrected. Attempts or attempts to strike falls in the category of DFK and then we need apply CRUEF.
But yes, you are right this is VC. This is a clear show of Brutality towards an opponent.
Semantics, I know
