Has the referee judged the defender payed the ball against his own arm? Hence no penalty & length of VAR review.
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It's a natural position when you're launching a ball awayI have no idea how that decision was reached. Defender's arm was way up in the air, that seems like a clear penalty to me.
Err, no it isn't. One arm might go up as you kick the ball, but I have never seen a player kick the ball with both arms up in the air.It's a natural position when you're launching a ball away
There are no UEFA laws. Might be guidance, but if that is the case the VAR obviously hasn't read it otherwise he wouldn't have recommended a review.Dale Johnson says a defender kicking the ball onto his own outstretched arm shouldn't be punished with a penalty according to UEFA laws.
I’d put it more that the play in question likely falls at the border of the UEFA guidance, resulting in two trained referees having a difference of opinion as to which side of the line the play comes down on. For any law, rule, guidance, or interpretation, there are always going to be border cases on judgment calls. And that is an area that VAR struggles with.There are no UEFA laws. Might be guidance, but if that is the case the VAR obviously hasn't read it otherwise he wouldn't have recommended a review.
Really don't see how any guidance can say that you can have both arms above your head when kicking the ball and not be penalised when you kick it against your arm. As I said before, if it is because of the nudge in the back I'd support that, but we have no idea, another reason why the VAR audio needs to be available to the paying and watching public.I’d put it more that the play in question likely falls at the border of the UEFA guidance, resulting in two trained referees having a difference of opinion as to which side of the line the play comes down on. For any law, rule, guidance, or interpretation, there are always going to be border cases on judgment calls. And that is an area that VAR struggles with.
When you're kicking a ball away like that though, your arms are not down by your sideReally don't see how any guidance can say that you can have both arms above your head when kicking the ball and not be penalised when you kick it against your arm. As I said before, if it is because of the nudge in the back I'd support that, but we have no idea, another reason why the VAR audio needs to be available to the paying and watching public.
Nor are they both above your headWhen you're kicking a ball away like that though, your arms are not down by your side
Your pic shows a standard volley. The guy in question is trying to hook it high and away with a tackle coming in behind him. Why would he throw his arms up to deliberately stop the ball, when he wants to clear it away from the area ? I think we'll have to agree to disagree.Nor are they both above your head
There are thousands of images online of footballers kicking the ball, I'd challenge you to find one where the kicker has both arms up vertically in the air. Typically they have one arm out in front of them and the other like the image below.
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It doesn't matter what kind of clearance it is, no footballer going to kick the ball is ever going to have both his arms above his head doing it. Challenge stands, show me an image of a footballer kicking the ball that has both hands above his head.Your pic shows a standard volley. The guy in question is trying to hook it high and away with a tackle coming in behind him. Why would he throw his arms up to deliberately stop the ball, when he wants to clear it away from the area ? I think we'll have to agree to disagree.
Problem is, the current laws state it probably is hand ball which is really harsh on the defender