Ollie towns
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Can someone clarify if the whole ball has to be outside the area for it to be deemed a handball by the keeper or and side of the ball past the line ?
Are you a referee or assistant referee?Can someone clarify if the whole ball has to be outside the area for it to be deemed a handball by the keeper or and side of the ball past the line ?
100%. I have never run a line as the officially appointed AR yet, but I have had NARs a couple of times. One match, it was the first time either of them had run the line and one still hadn't even got the first 5 middles in yet. Basically, I said forget keeper handballs if you aren't sure. If the ref can see it, they'll penalise it so no point ARs getting involved if they don't need to.I ask because I’ve seen this come up with some assistant referees starting out in e.g. youth football. Some young assistants are very keen to find anything to flag. On one hand, an offense is an offense. On the other hand, in a low level youth match, no want wants millimeter decisions about kicking from the hand. “Make it obviously in the box for me.”
You don't want it in high level matches either.On the other hand, in a low level youth match, no want wants millimeter decisions about kicking from the hand. “Make it obviously in the box for me.”
Yikes! That looks like a brand new youth ref call!You don't want it in high level matches either.
Mentioned it before, but I did a game as 4th official to Andy Halliday whilst he was suspended from Premier League games due to this mistake. His pre-match instructions included something like "if you think the keeper has handled it outside the area on a fly kick try to manage it, don't be a @%$* like me and flag itYou don't want it in high level matches either.
It's always the best that have these experiences . My dad's friend used to be a lino in the Football League (before the PL existed) and he always comes out with crazy stories like this. I struggle to believe them sometimesMentioned it before, but I did a game as 4th official to Andy Halliday whilst he was suspended from Premier League games due to this mistake. His pre-match instructions included something like "if you think the keeper has handled it outside the area on a fly kick try to manage it, don't be a @%$* like me and flag it
I know Andy Halliday pretty well so trust me, that will have been exactly what he said to Rusty.It's always the best that have these experiences . My dad's friend used to be a lino in the Football League (before the PL existed) and he always comes out with crazy stories like this. I struggle to believe them sometimes
I know, I never doubted it's authenticity for a second. I was referring to how crazy certain stories are that they are literally too stupid to be made up. It was more of a reference to the friend that I mentioned than anyone else.I know Andy Halliday pretty well so trust me, that will have been exactly what he said to Rusty.