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(Me being cynical) what do you think would would have been the outcome if there was no video evidence, not so obvious to the public what had happened and everything was based on reports?

The point, for the most part, they're doing this to protect their own image rather than protect the referees. I am not saying they dont care about protecting the referees. It's just that, sadly, protecting their own image comes at a much higher priority.
 
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(Me being cynical) what do you think would would have been the outcome if there was no video evidence, not so obvious to the public what had happened and everything was based on reports?

The point, for the most part, they're doing this to protect their own image rather than protect the referees. I am not saying they dont care about protecting the referees. It's just that, sadly, protecting their own image comes at a much higher priority.
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I'm not sure what you are suggesting about how things should work. A disciplinary process has to assess the evidence properly in order to be fair. It cannot just adopt the referees' version of events, as we are not infallible. Disciplinary panels do tend to give significant weight to referees' reports.
 
Good to see he was rightly banned for life. I still think it's absolutely ridiculous he got away with a suspended prison term though. He should be locked up as far as I'm concerned.
 
CaptainsPlease said:
I'm not sure what you are suggesting about how things should work. A disciplinary process has to assess the evidence properly in order to be fair. It cannot just adopt the referees' version of events, as we are not infallible. Disciplinary panels do tend to give significant weight to referees' reports.
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I am suggesting that is exactly how things should work. And I am suggesting it is naive to think that is how it works all the time.
For many number of reasons (lack of resources for example but there are other ones too), culprits tend to get away with a lot more when there is no hard evidence. Oor similarly when there is no publicity around a case.
 
I realise the challenges upon the justice system, but always felt disheartened by the relative leniency towards assaults.

If a fella kicked-off in a pub, the manager told him to leave, and that fella then punches the manager/other staff… he’s having an uncomfortable few weeks courtesy of the plod and never going back into that town.

If Bumlington United’s #4 punches me twice in the mouth after being sent off for DOGSO, the police don’t give two farts, and he’s told he can’t play footie for six months (under his real name, at least). Yeah, cheers.

Club name may or not have been changed ;)
 
Similar to when parents storm a pitch and kill a club.

No doubt their little jimmy will be whisked off to a new club the following week whilst the old club is left with mega fines and a turd storm to deal with.

Little jimmys name may or may not have been changed.
 
It’s the same for paramedics and other emergency responders. There’s plenty of stories of them being assaulted and the guilty party getting suspended sentences at most.

Assault should mean prison time, regardless. But I guess that’s what prison overcrowding does to you.
 
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Similar to when parents storm a pitch and kill a club.

No doubt their little jimmy will be whisked off to a new club the following week whilst the old club is left with mega fines and a turd storm to deal with.

Little jimmys name may or may not have been changed.
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Little Jimmy wasn’t so little when he clocked me twice tbh 😂
 
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If he doesn't pay it. Doesn't the club have to act as his guarantor?
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That's certainly the case in England, I can't say whether the club would be responsible for it in Wales though. In England the club would have to pay it, then go through the Football Debt Recovery process in order to get the individual suspended until the debt was repaid, but I'd have said that would be a little unfair on the club, given that a) they've already been heavily fined themselves, and b) the miscreant is never going to repay them!
 
So the club have essentially been hit with a £5,550 fine.

That is easily enough to finish a team.

The culprit is from a small Welsh town. So I would imagine he is under immense pressure to stop the club going under because of his stupid actions. So hopefully he pays.

But end of the day if a manager of a team is sucker punching a teenager. I have no sympathy.
 
I've no sympathy for the individual whatsoever, but I do have sympathy for a club getting absolutely shafted by one moron of a coach. That being said, there are a few clubs out there where the people running them are of a similar attitude to this lovely person; seeing clubs like that go to the wall would perhaps not be a terrible thing.
 
Difficult to say since we don’t know the club and if they have history of this kind of thing, but I don’t have too much sympathy either way. The manager may have just been a bad egg, but hopefully this can be a warning to clubs on who they bring in.
 
Certainly a culture thing. The other adult stood in the dugout just stands there as the manager punches the AR.

Horrible.
 
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