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    Palace v Leeds

    An Arsenal player did score with their upper arm against Fulham in the opening game of the season. It was regarded as a positive law change then!
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    Chelsea V Sheffield United

    Interesting one and first time I've seen it applied in a game. Chelsea player pulled back. Moss gives free-kick and it's a clear yellow card but Chelsea take free-kick quickly and have a promising attack. Moss allows play to continue and delays caution until next time ball goes out of play...
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    Merseyside derby

    It was 2013, Mark Halsey's last season. I think the general view at the time was that the protocols should be changed to correct such a clear injustice. Presumably the thinking at the time was wanting to uphold the 'referee's opinion is final' idea but that's out of the window now with VAR. It...
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    Merseyside derby

    It got quite a lot of coverage - it was so bad the PGMO even put out a statement during the game saying the VAR had got it wrong!
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    United v United

    Perhaps Pawson thought the defender had played the ball in real time and the slow mo was used to show he hadn't?
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    Merseyside derby

    There wasn't a retrospective review after the Chelsea V Spurs game last season (same referee, same VAR as it happens!) I think it's unlikely here, unless the protocols have changed at all - I find it very difficult to say that none of the officials saw the incident considering they knew it was a...
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    Merseyside derby

    There've certainly been some exceptions to that - the Eric Dier penalty a few weeks ago for instance. VAR looked at the possible handball several times before proceeding to check the APP for potential offside and then recommending the review. I guess today was a bit different in that the...
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    Merseyside derby

    With offside, remember that they've changed the definition for handball now so there are parts of the body near the shoulder/upper arm area which you can now legally play the ball with (and therefore score with) so you could be offside with a body part this season which you were onside with last...
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    Ars V Shu

    Not certain but around 2nd minute I think.
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    TOT V NEW (not another one)

    Indeed. There was a lot of moaning in the media last season about the Premier League going it their own way and doing things differently to the rest of the world. I distinctly remember pundits and the likes of Keith Hackett saying it was a madness how lenient PL referees were being on defensive...
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    TOT V NEW (not another one)

    I vaguely remember a few like that at the World Cup - Portugal V Iran etc.
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    TOT V NEW (not another one)

    As far as I'm aware the wording for handball for this season has been tweaked/clarified rather than changed - words like 'usually' have been removed. I don't think we're going to see the handball law changed again any time soon.
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    TOT V NEW (not another one)

    I think it's 'arrogance' in many ways to think this is going to change any time soon. This isn't a new handball interpretation across the world, the Premier League is just late to the party. It was applied in the 2018 World Cup and the 18/19 Champions League for instance so it's been in place...
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    Brighton v Manchester United - Handball after final whistle

    The wording posted above relating to a VAR intervention after the full-time whistle has been blown suggests that if a VAR/assistant tells the referee about an offence that occurred before the final whistle was blown then it can still be penalised - it seems it's only not possible to do that if...
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    TOT V NEW (not another one)

    I guess attackers would equally argue they feel harshly done by when the ball has brushed their hand and it's been disallowed. I think with VAR used across the world you have to have a universal application and consistency, and I think we are now getting there. It's completely different to what...
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    Brighton v Manchester United - Handball after final whistle

    The BT commentator Darren Fletcher said 'Just to explain what we can hear, we hear what Simon Hooper is saying to Chris Kavanagh but not Chris Kavanagh's response. Simon Hooper is saying he thinks the Brighton player initiated the contact'. I've suspected this before from what other...
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    Brighton v Manchester United - Handball after final whistle

    We also had confirmation in this game, as some suspected, that the commentators do hear the audio from the VAR (but not the referee.)
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    Sea vs pool

    Well, I don't agree with that! There's been plenty of red cards downgraded and I don't think a player has ever been brought back form the dressing room - we saw the Sheffield United defender waiting today. The referee needs to make the decision they believe is correct in real time and I...
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    Liverpool HB-PK (v Leeds)

    When the law refers to the ball 'above/beyond' the shoulder, what does the 'beyond' bit mean? Does it mean any arm extended sideways from the body?What is the difference between that and 'making body unnaturally bigger'?
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    Sea vs pool

    I believe the commentators can hear the VAR (at least some of the time) - the BBC commentator Steve Wilson spoke about this last season and Mark Clattenburg said recently how he'd been able to listen in when working for BT last season and he'd been surprised how polished it was.
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