the walloper
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The Luke Shaw incident during the PSV v Man Utd CL match got me thinking about this.
Now in real time, it looks like a great tackle from the PSV lad. He's came in and clearly played the ball with his right foot. It's the follow through with his left which catches Shaw and inadvertently breaks his leg.
Now, if a tackle is made which breaks a leg, should this not be considered as using excessive force? When scoring the check box for serious foul play with that particular incident; there was no intent to injure, he was in control of the tackle and studs were not raised. Certainly, he came in at speed, but it just didn't seem to suggest a red card in real time.
However in saying that, if a tackle is made which breaks a leg, which in my opinion is use of excessive force, then it should be a sending off offence. I suppose you could ask the question, how can you as referee gauge excessive force by judging injuries? Well we can't unless a leg is hanging off and we are not medically trained either. But if an injury is that bad then it is proof that excessive force has been used, no matter if the ball is played or not.
Was Shaw just unfortunate? It's a tricky one, and hard to take retrospective action based on an injury.
I've never had such an injury during any of my games. But i've had games when i've had fouls, which i've thought a foul only and a word in the ear will suffice, only for the tackled player to approach me and show me a huge gash or stud marks on his leg. I've then thought to myself afterwards, maybe that actually was a caution or red card.
Food for thought.
Now in real time, it looks like a great tackle from the PSV lad. He's came in and clearly played the ball with his right foot. It's the follow through with his left which catches Shaw and inadvertently breaks his leg.
Now, if a tackle is made which breaks a leg, should this not be considered as using excessive force? When scoring the check box for serious foul play with that particular incident; there was no intent to injure, he was in control of the tackle and studs were not raised. Certainly, he came in at speed, but it just didn't seem to suggest a red card in real time.
However in saying that, if a tackle is made which breaks a leg, which in my opinion is use of excessive force, then it should be a sending off offence. I suppose you could ask the question, how can you as referee gauge excessive force by judging injuries? Well we can't unless a leg is hanging off and we are not medically trained either. But if an injury is that bad then it is proof that excessive force has been used, no matter if the ball is played or not.
Was Shaw just unfortunate? It's a tricky one, and hard to take retrospective action based on an injury.
I've never had such an injury during any of my games. But i've had games when i've had fouls, which i've thought a foul only and a word in the ear will suffice, only for the tackled player to approach me and show me a huge gash or stud marks on his leg. I've then thought to myself afterwards, maybe that actually was a caution or red card.
Food for thought.
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