BHA v LEI

[cooperd5]

2 nailed on penalties that both required Darren Bond to visit the screen.

1st at 0:40 handball
2nd at 2:05 foul
I'm struggling to see why he didn't give them in real time....

 

[cdsman]

First one - he appears to be unsighted. You can see him trying to look around the defender in front of the one who handballs it... can't be guessing.
Second one - looks like a clear penalty to me. Not mutual holding, as the Brighton player is showing by having his arms out wide...

 

[Russell Jones]

On the first, given that he doesn't "turn down" the appeal (cut the grass etc), safe to assume that he's just unsighted .. so exactly the kind of situation where VAR can and should help.

On the second, the EPL threshold for when holding becomes an offence has been set fairly high (especially in the PA) so simply an understandable, if, on balance, incorrect, human judgement.

 

[cooperd5]

I watched it on MOTD and there's an angle from behind showing how he really should have seen it... It's the just the unwillingness to give stuff I find irritating

 

[DavidObs]

I watched it on MOTD and there's an angle from behind showing how he really should have seen it... It's the just the unwillingness to give stuff I find irritating

I am sure there are many on this forum who agree with you including very experienced Referees etc, though what I would say is that these are pressure cook situations and although it can be argued that’s what they are paid to do etc, it’s not that simple. At the end of the day, the correct outcomes were obtained and surely that has to be the priority. For me, with other situations that have happened recently, I am just pleased DB was referred to/looked at the monitor.

 

[Big Cat]

On the first, given that he doesn't "turn down" the appeal (cut the grass etc), safe to assume that he's just unsighted .. so exactly the kind of situation where VAR can and should help.

On the second, the EPL threshold for when holding becomes an offence has been set fairly high (especially in the PA) so simply an understandable, if, on balance, incorrect, human judgement.

I agree, he seems unsighted for the HB
Whilst the second one is a PK, I don't think it was a C&O error and it's one of those VAR lotteries as to whether or not it merited intervention

Generally, I agree with @cooperd5 that Referees are paralysed with regards to KMI/KMD/KMS's when VAR is looking on, but I don't think these two incidents are the best examples of that assertion

 

[cooperd5]

All fair points. I'd still expect him to see the HB and to give the 2nd. Opinions eh! Thanks