Bristol City offside

[wazztie16]

Anyone care to give their thoughts on the above Vs Derby County? I'm a Rams fan, and I thought the goal should've stood.

Can't tell from the video but player was likely in an offside position when the ball is played, but there's so long between that and the defensive kick that I would class it as deliberate play.

Unless I'm missing something? Penny for thoughts, please.

Start at 5:50

 

[bester]

Great concentration from the assistant. Plenty of elements in that decision.

 

[NOVARef]

At 6:29, the video shows that he was clearly in an offside position when the ball was played. I can see your point about deliberate play, but I would think this is an offense because...

• challenging an opponent for the ball or
• clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent

 

[wazztie16]

At 6:29, the video shows that he was clearly in an offside position when the ball was played. I can see your point about deliberate play, but I would think this is an offense because...

• challenging an opponent for the ball or
• clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent

I'll admit I didn't watch the replay at 6:29.

So definitely in an offside position.

Doesn't attempt to play the ball or challenge an opponent when it first bounces over him, obviously he then challenges the opponent when the defender goes to clear it, but with the amount of time passed, distance, I understand a ball coming in the air is harder to 'deal with' than on the ground, I still can see an argument for onside.

Happy for guidance that I'm wrong though.

 

[bester]

Until the defender has touched the ball having an opportunity to make a deliberate play is largely irrelevant

The ball could be at a defenders feet for 10 second's (if he hasn't touched it) but as soon as the player comes from an offside position to challenge him it's offside.

The grey area is when they take a controlling touch first. If they are then challenges immediately it's likely an offence.

 

[socal lurker]

Doesn't attempt to play the ball or challenge an opponent when it first bounces over him, obviously he then challenges the opponent when the defender goes to clear it, but with the amount of time passed, distance, I understand a ball coming in the air is harder to 'deal with' than on the ground, I still can see an argument for onside.

I don’t think there is any argument at all for onside. He was in OSP when the ball was last played by a teammate. He challenges for the ball before the ball is played by the defender. Clear offside. The passage of time is wholly irrelevant.