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Ori said:
After watching the replays at half time. Gabriel isn’t trying to pass the ball forward and it’s the Everton player who knocks it. Is it deliberate? I think it is.
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It doesn’t matter which way the attacking player is playing the ball, or what his intention is.

Did the Everton player deliberately stick his leg out? Yes.

Does this class as deliberately playing the ball? No.
 
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Paul_10 said:
To be fair, it's hard for consistency when the referee only sees it once and every situation is marginally different but it's good too see Hooper not giving a pen there as the Everton player was clearly looking for it.

As for the offside, I agree with Neville, surely with all the cameras around, there has to be a better angle than that, when fans, pundits and at times managers not fully trusting the technology, giving awkward cameras angles will not help to gain that trust.
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There were talks earlier this year of adding an extra 4 (I think) cameras at each ground. No idea whether they did it or not
 
Runner-Ref said:
It doesn’t matter which way the attacking player is playing the ball, or what his intention is.

Did the Everton player deliberately stick his leg out? Yes.

Does this class as deliberately playing the ball? No.
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Well he deliberately made contact with the ball. That’s a deliberate action no?
 
Ori said:
Well he deliberately made contact with the ball. That’s a deliberate action no?
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Yes, he has deliberately put his leg out to prevent the pass, however that’s not part of the criteria for resetting the phase of play for offside. It’s a block, no different to when a defender on the edge of their box sticks a leg out to stop a shot
 
At least I shouted offside as soon Nketie touched the ball and I would hope I would flag this. I don't think it was such a tough decision for the AR - if he saw the pass - but there was an angle on him and I don't think he saw it.

At this level the opposite AR will call "now" or similar on comms for every forward pass - and it is understandable that neither AR was expecting the ball to come forward.
The commentators were dismal on this BTW!
 
This was one of the more extreme offside decisions that will no doubt end up on training videos. Clear offside for me though, a deflection rather than controlled pass.
 
Ori said:
After watching the replays at half time. Gabriel isn’t trying to pass the ball forward and it’s the Everton player who knocks it. Is it deliberate? I think it is.
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The thing is though, it doesn't matter what Gabriel is trying to do - it only matters whether he touched the ball or not. The question of deliberateness and/or capability only applies to the opponent, not the the team mate of the offside-positioned player.

So the question of the deliberateness of the Everton player's actions is relevant (and the definitions in the law should apply) but the question of what the Arsenal player was trying to do, is not.
 
Was this game an exception to clampdown on timewasting and gamesmanship or the Premier League reverting back to the old normal? Seemed to be numerous incidents of players blatantly delaying restarts and wasting time with little sign of a hurry up and only 4 minutes added on time signaled in the 2nd half despite several stoppages and 7 substitutions (all before the board went up)
 
I must admit was surprised at the 4 minutes judging by how most games end so far this season!
 
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