Mick.
RefChat Addict
Firstly, I would like to say that one of the things that I love about this site, is that I can come on after a match, pen a couple of incidents that are causing me concern and sit back and wait for the great and the good to give me their feedback.
So enough sucking up......handball.
Blue v Red. Fairly well contested game.
I know that there has to be a deliberate act of hand to ball for the offence to be made out, but I am also aware of players putting their hands/arms in a position which encourages the ball to touch their hand and that some refs deem this to be a handball. Every five minutes, even when the ball is nowhere near the hand the cries of "handball ref" go up. I even had it today when a player pushed their foot out at waist height and just made contact with their foot!! It's a bit like "In the back" every time someone goes for a header.
Anyway blue are attacking and red player comes in for a tackle. Red player has one arm across her body so that her forearm is parallel to the ground. Her other arm is in the same position but against the outside of the first arm. It is as if she is in the process of crossing her arms at just above waist height. That is how her arms are when she comes in with the challenge. Needless to say the ball is kicked against her, runs up her legs and deflect away from under her two arms.
I am satisfied that the ball has hit her arms, but equally satisfied that the arms are not in a natural position and that this position has been made to prevent the ball going past her waist. Cue shouts of "handball". I wait to see if there is any advantage to blue and then blow for the foul. Lots of protests from red.
The DFK is just outside the penalty D and blue score.
A couple of minutes later and I am getting grief from the red manager that I should have put on a blue jersey (another story). The game ends 2-2.
Red lino is a qualified ref and decides to tell me that he cannot understand my decision. He said that the ball went up and hit her elbow and at that close range it was never a handball. He says that this decision was a match changing one. At the point of the handball, the score had been 1-1 and this had put blue up 2-1. The red player had gone in with her back mainly showing to the lino so I was satisfied that he didn't have the best angle, indeed I was stood squarely looking at the tackle and am satisfied that my angle was better than his.
However, ball to hand. Handball in this case or no?
So enough sucking up......handball.
Blue v Red. Fairly well contested game.
I know that there has to be a deliberate act of hand to ball for the offence to be made out, but I am also aware of players putting their hands/arms in a position which encourages the ball to touch their hand and that some refs deem this to be a handball. Every five minutes, even when the ball is nowhere near the hand the cries of "handball ref" go up. I even had it today when a player pushed their foot out at waist height and just made contact with their foot!! It's a bit like "In the back" every time someone goes for a header.
Anyway blue are attacking and red player comes in for a tackle. Red player has one arm across her body so that her forearm is parallel to the ground. Her other arm is in the same position but against the outside of the first arm. It is as if she is in the process of crossing her arms at just above waist height. That is how her arms are when she comes in with the challenge. Needless to say the ball is kicked against her, runs up her legs and deflect away from under her two arms.
I am satisfied that the ball has hit her arms, but equally satisfied that the arms are not in a natural position and that this position has been made to prevent the ball going past her waist. Cue shouts of "handball". I wait to see if there is any advantage to blue and then blow for the foul. Lots of protests from red.
The DFK is just outside the penalty D and blue score.
A couple of minutes later and I am getting grief from the red manager that I should have put on a blue jersey (another story). The game ends 2-2.
Red lino is a qualified ref and decides to tell me that he cannot understand my decision. He said that the ball went up and hit her elbow and at that close range it was never a handball. He says that this decision was a match changing one. At the point of the handball, the score had been 1-1 and this had put blue up 2-1. The red player had gone in with her back mainly showing to the lino so I was satisfied that he didn't have the best angle, indeed I was stood squarely looking at the tackle and am satisfied that my angle was better than his.
However, ball to hand. Handball in this case or no?