Man United Vs Leeds - first goal foul on Yoro?

[CrossRef]

Before the first goal was scored, when contesting for the aerial ball, Leeds striker's arm clearly hit Yoro's face and impacted Yoro's ability to clear the ball. If it is in a county league I would assume players will appeal for it hardly. Why the ref didn't give it and Yoro made no attempt to appeal at all here?

Can be seen at 1:10 of this clip:

Premier League highlights: Manchester United 1-2 Leeds United

Leeds boost their Premier League survival hopes with a 2-1 win against 10-man Manchester United at Old Trafford.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[es1]

Why the ref didn't give it and Yoro made no attempt to appeal at all here?

i think it's a pretty normal football situation with minor contact - happy with no foul

 

[CrossRef]

Let me amend a picture. DCL's hand clearly hit Yoro's face before any bodily contact. I've seen many
examples from UEFA refereeing examples, any slap on the face will be considered a foul and possibly a booking any a decent amount of force.

 

[one]

Did any of the Man United players think it was a foul? at least 6 withing 10 yads of it 7 including Yoro.

 

[ChasObserverRefDeveloper]

Let me amend a picture. DCL's hand clearly hit Yoro's face before any bodily contact. I've seen many
examples from UEFA refereeing examples, any slap on the face will be considered a foul and possibly a booking any a decent amount of force.

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This is not a "slap in the face". This is two players competing for the ball. No complaints from the player in red(?)

 

[Macca]

While I personally believed it to be a foul and would give it in any of my games, this "challenge" together with the hair pull really highlights the inconsistencies that make officiating an impossible job. How can we explain why a challenge with a forearm contacting the face of an opponent is okay, but tugging the hair of a player is a red card.
If the white player challenged a keeper like that, it would be a foul, but an outfield player, no foul.

 

[one]

As a general rule, the higher the level of game, the higher the bar for level of 'physicality' allowed.

The same also applies to 'high foot'. You hardly see it called in EPL when there is no contact but they are expected to be called in grassroots.

 

[RustyRef]

Physical contact doesn't make a foul, and unless I'm not remembering it correctly there wasn't a single complaint from any United players. Not even Fernandes, which pretty much made it the only point of the game that he wasn't running after the referee moaning.

 

[socal lurker]

When I teach new refs, I always tell them NOT to watch professional matches to understand what fouls are . . . .

 

[ladbroke8745]

When I teach new refs, I always tell them NOT to watch professional matches to understand what fouls are . . . .

I agree a lot with this.
However we also have the issue that fouls we give (or even dont give) that are not given (given) in pro games theyre complaining that it was a foul yesterday on MOTD.

 

[CrossRef]

ok guys thanks for the comments. Let's answer this question: would you give it in a county league game?

My answer is a YES. I've given many many fouls softer than this, especially when a striker fouled a defender. From what I can feel this is what expected by the players at the county league level.

 

[one]

I honestly think contact with the head was very minimal. There was a lot of contact with the shoulder. The arm was not stiff or the hand was not clinched. Would I give it in a grassroots game? Very much dependent on the temperature of the game at that time (which dictates my tolerance for fouls).

It's always those incidents that fall in the middle third of the spectrum generating a lot of debate