Couldn’t agree more, very valid pointPoint taken, but as originally posted, I do youth football (7-18) in the main. I'm not really addressing vets or Sunday morning adult games. My role is as much educator as anything else, mainly of managers, tbh. Be clear and polite and tell them what they ought to be getting their team to do and they'll actually thank you in the long run; problems which may have arisen further down the line will then be nipped in the bud when they're running a team of 8-year-olds, or whatever. I am not trying to stop players taking part and looking to brandish cards for blue under armour with a red shirt - far from it. However, it's a learning process for those in charge and part of what grassroots football involves is actually bothering to read and adhere to the league's laws. All of this can be negotiated with a little tact and good sense.
Sorry to post again off-thread, so will leave it there. Hope this clears up what I was getting at.
1. The laws of the game only state that players have to wear shorts and shirts with sleeves.For the last three years, in addition to refereeing, I’ve run a veterans team.
It’s enough of a struggle to get 11+ players to turn up, if I then had a ref complain and not allow to play someone who was wearing their favourite old shorts from 20 years ago that didn’t match anyone else’s (we had a team shirt, but that was it) or that the electric tape they’d fished out the back in of the car to keep their socks up was the wrong colour we’d have never played (and we’d have sent the ref home without his match fee!)
Be realistic- Saturday league and “important” football this stuff matters, but at some levels it really doesn’t.
Interesting to see who would “win” this debate at a County FA - the RDO trying to enforce the laws, or the Football Development Officer charged with maintaining/increasing player participation numbers.
You're right that the players could very easily adhere to the law, but at the end of the day, you're not going to make big Dave go and buy some sock tape and if you attempt to make him (by way of a caution), it is going to be more trouble than it's worth, where I am anyway. I'd rather have a good rapport with the players before the game than strictly enforce sock tape at Sunday League (other standards are different).The laws of the game are the laws of the game, the County FA aren't going to tell the RDO to tell referees not to enforce the laws of the game because big Dave from The Nags Head doesn't want to spend a pound to buy the right colour sock tape.
Genuine question - what would you do if you turned up for an U13 match and there were no corner flags? In the LOTG you need to have corner flags.As referees we are paid to enforce the laws of the game.
There is no allowance for it being Sunday league so we don't need to apply the laws correctly.
Incidentally you're all making it out to be some massive issue. I've never once had a player who couldn't find the right colour sock tape, or had any players refuse to change their sock tape, or had any match control issues because I asked a couple of players to change their sock tape.
To put it simply, enforcing these laws is not the massive drama that some people make it out to be, probably because they're trying to justify not doing their job.
Genuine question - what would you do if you turned up for an U13 match and there were no corner flags? In the LOTG you need to have corner flags.
And what if you speak to the coach about it and it turns out they cannot afford them (very common in youth football). What do you do then?
As a youth coach (and a referee) if a referee spoke to me about sock tape colour I think I would genuinely laugh. I think there needs to be a common n sense approach at certain levels of football.
Is it just specific to corner flags or is it used as an example for times when you need to get on with the game without worrying for trivial things in grassroots?Corrner flags is specifically mentioned in the laws of the game in relation to the "spirit of the game"
It's not just for corner flags, but I don't think it was introduced as a get out clause for weak or lazy referees who can't be bothered to do their job either.Is it just specific to corner flags or is it used as an example for times when you need to get on with the game without worrying for trivial things in grassroots?