Port Vale Vs Blackpool

[markieg]

There were a number of incidents in this match, there was a sending off. Now as a Vale fan I can understand Blackpool fan not being happy, but in the modern game its a red.

The issue for me was the manager of Blackpool Ian Evatt, basically at the end of the match he clearly told his players not to go to the ref to shake his hand. For me this is unacceptable, no matter what you think you should be shaking their hand. I thought the ref had a poor game (as we all do at times) but he had it for both teams not just Blackpool. That's something I don't mind as a fan, refs being consistent, in the sense that all decision making comes across that way.

In tackle is the 3 min mark, but you can see the players saying he got the ball (dont think he did, but not sure how that matters when you come in studds showing)

What he said (Blackpool manager) https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19dTUoGDfk/

 

[RefereeX]

Referee Mr Ed Duckworth has a huge amount of respect from me, and always will.

Obviously I don’t know the details of the full game but I can absolutely see why he produced the red card.

 

[Archer]

As a Wiganer, my opinion of Mr Evatt shall not be repeated on a public forum

Start at 2:20 for the challenge (with context). Saw it on X yesterday and first thought was red.

 

[RustyRef]

I can see why he went red, but think he could have got away with a caution. Never a good look when you send someone off for SFP and then opposition players are laughing and joking with him, you really want them to be fuming at the challenge.

 

[santa sangria]

I don’t watch enough Champo for overall context. I think it looks really bad… but the actual contact would not result in a premier league red card. At grassroots I think it’s an easy red. I was expecting yellow here.

Very stupid from the player. No need. Can cost the match, points, play-off place.

 

[RefereeX]

This is League one @santa sangria but your point still stands I'd imagine.

Appeal rejected, which doesn't surprise me, as it's not obviously not a red card.

 

[Big Cat]

Referee Mr Ed Duckworth has a huge amount of respect from me, and always will.

Obviously I don’t know the details of the full game but I can absolutely see why he produced the red card.

I like Ed too
He has a lot to like about him. I can't vouch for the claims, but I've heard he's had a number of difficult experiences of late. He might just be going through a period of adjustment to the higher level. I wonder, given his roles in Refereeing circles, whether he falls into the trap of overthinking everything. He must spend so much time thinking about 'process' and wotnot, that he'd be forgiven for being 'too busy' in games. I'm betting he's just trying too hard and upsetting a few customers in the process

 

[Big Cat]

Looking at the SFP incident, I think Ed is a a victim of his own guidance (and the guidance of the entire refereeing department). Their guidance would be to indicate a dismissal for a lunge. The fact the players are moving in opposite directions means the intensity possibly gets into the realms of endangering the safety of an opponent. So whilst I'd expect him to be rewarded with a correct KMI, I don't think the wider football community expects or wants a red card for this challenge. So, that's where the conflict stems from in my opinion and that's why he was castigated. Personally, I'd side with the rest of the football community and oppose an indication for a dismissal in this instance. But that's maybe why I excel on club marks but not on assessments

I think it's interesting there was no caution for crowding the referee. It just shows that the classroom expectation is not what happens on the pitch as it wouldn't have helped him in this situation IMO

 

[Big Cat]

Good decision to play on for the second goal. Blackpool defender looked shattered, very slow and was looking for the expected 'safe foul'. I hate excessively 'safe refereeing' and view it as a refereeing culture disease. When a ref indicates 'he'll take a safe defensive FK all day long' in the pre-match, I know that ref has caught the virus and won't be my cup of tea
There was probably a push in the back for the 4th goal however. 'Throwing Blackpool a bone' would've been sensible to avoid a 'one sided' feel to the overall game. Armchair reffing is canny easy imo

 

[RefereeX]

Good decision to play on for the second goal. Blackpool defender looked shattered, very slow and was looking for the expected 'safe foul'. I hate excessively 'safe refereeing' and view it as a refereeing culture disease. When a ref indicates 'he'll take a safe defensive FK all day long' in the pre-match, I know that ref has caught the virus and won't be my cup of tea
There was probably a push in the back for the 4th goal however. 'Throwing Blackpool a bone' would've been sensible to avoid a 'one sided' feel to the overall game. Armchair reffing is canny easy imo

It looks like you're having a lovely conversation with yourself too!

Although I'm sure Ed doesn't waste his time reading what supporters are saying about him online (A disease I can't seem to rid myself of), it doesn't help him that Blackpool fans know he is from Preston, believe him to be a supporter of PNE (rightly or wrongly I don't know) and it is commonly discussed on their fans message board. (I stumbled across this by accident once).

I genuinely believe I could/would referee my own club without bias if called upon, although obviously I never would, even if I ever reached that level, as I would declare to the FA my allegiance, but to suggest that Ed may be intentionally disadvantaging a rival of what may or may not be his club, potentially sacrificing a promising career in the process, is ludicrous.