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Ridiculous Red Card

Should goal celebrations merit a yellow card?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 33.3%

  • No

    Votes: 6 66.7%
  • Total voters
    9

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Southend-ref

Southend-ref

Southend United Supporter
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Watch this video:

Anybody can see that it is ridiculous, but am I right in saying that it was an incorrect decision?
As I know it, it is only a yellow card if the shirt is removed in a goal celebration - am I right?
 
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As I understand it yes, you can only YC for shirt removal as part of a goal celebration. However, and just throwing this in here, maybe in this case the referee decided the player going off was wasting time by removing his shirt and thus second yellow carded him.

Regardless, thats harsh imo.
 
I was under the impression that you should caution the player for removing the shirt due to causing offence in certain middle eastern countries regardless if it was in a goal celebration or not.
 
Did the substtution continue despite the sending off?

Can only think it was time wasting? Very odd incident.
 
Removing the shirt in celebration of a goal is a YC offence. Removing the shirt whilst leaving the FOP with permission is not as far as I am aware.

Very harsh YC in this vid, but the question to vote on was referencing goal celbrations, and yes, I do think cards should be used in certain circumstances.

As I understand it, the shirt removal offence was introduced to prevent play being held up unneccessarily, (see Diego Forlan at OT), it accompanied rules about commercial messages on undershirts etc etc, so it is more about the commercial sponsorship rights than an offence against an opponent or the game itself.

As far as goal celebs are concerned, I do feel that higher up in the game, there is a safety factor to consider, and I believe the cards for 'over-celebrating' were introduced with this in mind. Players running to the opposition fans to celebrate a goal for example, or running up to their own fans and causing a surge forwards. Dangerous for those involved, player and spectator.
 
Like has previously been said, this for me is a yellow for time wasting, not taking off the shirt.

Either way, he did take of his shirt so technically a yellow.

As far as the poll goes, it should be at the referee's discretion and come under time wasting. There is no need for a separate category for goal celebration.
 
TBH I didn't think that he was that slow leaving the FOP, and taking off his shirt didn't slow him down any did it? Given that I always stop the watch for subs, the time is added on and none wasted anyway.
 
Strange incident happened a few years back when I was still playing. It was quite a warm day and we scored a goal so our centre back who was in the other side of the park decided that since there would be a few seconds until KO he would take his top off, then his under armour because it was too warm and all you see is the ref running over, giving him 2 yellows, each for taking an item of clothing off.
 
Very strange decision, I can't see why he has given the 2nd yellow. Would like to know if he was sent off as a player or as a used substitute.

It's frustrating when common sense isn't used, that's why we're tarred with the same brush.
 
micky2001 said:
Strange incident happened a few years back when I was still playing. It was quite a warm day and we scored a goal so our centre back who was in the other side of the park decided that since there would be a few seconds until KO he would take his top off, then his under armour because it was too warm and all you see is the ref running over, giving him 2 yellows, each for taking an item of clothing off.
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Craig Evans said:
Very strange decision, I can't see why he has given the 2nd yellow. Would like to know if he was sent off as a player or as a used substitute.

It's frustrating when common sense isn't used, that's why we're tarred with the same brush.
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I expect that he was sent off as player - you can see that the fourth official steps in to stop the substitution being completed.
 
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