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Darius said:
I can only talk as being an AR but I've noticed that I like the following;


5. Dissent

If they call you over back them up (never happened to me but you always see it on here)
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Be careful on this one, remember assistants are there to assist, not insist!

Back them yes, but they could be over sensitive, then you need to manage the situation. If they're wrong on a decision and get a sarcy comment, that they want booking for dissent which would be detrimental to your match control I wouldn't recommend. Just get an apology and blag to the player your saving him a caution and everyone is happy.
 
I can tell you one thing that drives me nuts as an AR:
"I like to let the players play".

So, you are not going to apply the laws and blow for fouls... where does that leave me exactly... in my zone I am supposed to guess if it was a foul you would shirk?

I've had this a couple of times ore match. Nooooo!
 
santa sangria said:
"I like to let the players play".
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I agree, not the best or clearest pre-match instruction!

However, I'd interpret this as the referee saying that he likes to try and play advantage where possible. So I'd briefly hold off from flagging for an offence in my area of credibility to see if advantage develops ..
 
Russell Jones said:
I agree, not the best or clearest pre-match instruction!

However, I'd interpret this as the referee saying that he likes to try and play advantage where possible. So I'd briefly hold off from flagging for an offence in my area of credibility to see if advantage develops ..
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Not my job to decide on advantage
I flag every foul and then he has the option to call advantage. Everyone knows what has happened and it's no threat to our credibility.
 
CapnBloodbeard said:
I think if there's quite a clear advantage than it helps nobody if the AR flags...
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Surely that's like saying the referee shouldn't give the arms and shout for a clear advantage?
My flag indicates I've seen it, referee gives arms and shout, nice advantage played
 
Surely that's nothing at all like what you just said!

If it's a clear as day advantage, and it's pretty much already accrued, then I'd think there's no benefit in flagging. It makes the AR look like he doesn't understand the game, it risks players stopping in response, and it also risks a yo-yo flag if the ref gives the shout straight away.
Sure, if it's a 'maybe' advantage, then flag it, but if the advantage is pretty much clear cut, pretty much happening but the ref just hasn't shouted it yet, I'd argue there's no point flagging when you know play isn't going to stop.
 
CapnBloodbeard said:
Surely that's nothing at all like what you just said!

If it's a clear as day advantage, and it's pretty much already accrued, then I'd think there's no benefit in flagging. It makes the AR look like he doesn't understand the game, it risks players stopping in response, and it also risks a yo-yo flag if the ref gives the shout straight away.
Sure, if it's a 'maybe' advantage, then flag it, but if the advantage is pretty much clear cut, pretty much happening but the ref just hasn't shouted it yet, I'd argue there's no point flagging when you know play isn't going to stop.
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Well if you're going to add caveats to my original statement then of course I'm going to be wrong.
 
CapnBloodbeard said:
Surely that's nothing at all like what you just said!

If it's a clear as day advantage, and it's pretty much already accrued, then I'd think there's no benefit in flagging. It makes the AR look like he doesn't understand the game, it risks players stopping in response, and it also risks a yo-yo flag if the ref gives the shout straight away.
Sure, if it's a 'maybe' advantage, then flag it, but if the advantage is pretty much clear cut, pretty much happening but the ref just hasn't shouted it yet, I'd argue there's no point flagging when you know play isn't going to stop.
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Yeah, this happened in the Arsenal Spurs game. Porntash AR, who had already let the Kane goal go*, flagged a breakaway foul when the ref was only 20 yards away and odds on to play advantage. It meant the AR was 20 yards up the pitch with no hope of following the offside line. (He also did some poor half flagging and looked out of his depth to be honest. The 'tash did not help!)
 
I usually put the a/r who might replace me away from the dug outs, if he/she then does, there'll be no axe to grind when refereeing, no risk of confrontatation etc

The other a/r then has more responsibilities, so a supportive lazy eye to see how they're coping and the odd thumbs up and smile to them doesn't go amiss. I can hear shouts of disapproval from all quarters of the Empire, but it's always worked well for me in the past, it displays trust I think.

Couple that with allowing them to do what you asked them to do in your pre-match briefing usually leaves them too busy to be nervous, when lining I used to growl at colleagues who asked me to do A,B,C then tried doing it themselves.
 
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