The accidental HB rule only create an offense of the HB is by the scorer and the goal is immediate.So, if a ball accidently hits an attackers hand, and then falls to a teammate, who scores, the goal stands..... or does it need a pass from the attacker, ie Gordon, as in the case today for Newcastle.
It has to be from the hand of the scorer. If from a team mate it is not an offenceSo, if a ball accidently hits an attackers hand, and then falls to a teammate, who scores, the goal stands..... or does it need a pass from the attacker, ie Gordon, as in the case today for Newcastle.
Maybe you could says why you think it's a handball? That would probably help as I can't see any reason in law to rule it out, and that's probably why VAR did not recommend a review. We know they had a good look at it too due to the close ball in or out decision.
If you believe his hand was in an unnatural position, then you could try and justify this as handball. But I’d say it’s in expected position and he’s basically in a running motion.Simple, his hand is away from his body and the fact hitting his hand actually changes the direction of the ball in HIS favour which allows him to set up the goal.
Yes it's accidental of course but very few handballs are deliberate. No doubt in UEFA/European leagues that would be flagged up and rightly so.
It might be away from his body, but it was very low and part of the normal running motion. Even if VAR thought it was a handball I don't see that they can get involved as it certainly wasn't a clear and obvious error.Simple, his hand is away from his body and the fact hitting his hand actually changes the direction of the ball in HIS favour which allows him to set up the goal.
Yes it's accidental of course but very few handballs are deliberate. No doubt in UEFA/European leagues that would be flagged up and rightly so.
It might be away from his body, but it was very low and part of the normal running motion. Even if VAR thought it was a handball I don't see that they can get involved as it certainly wasn't a clear and obvious error.
Absolutely it wouldn't be a penalty, not even close.Flip it the other way round, you be happy that is not a penalty if Gordon was the defender?
If his arm was right by his side then I would get it but not when its away from his body. I gathered him potentially gaining an advantage may be irrelevant(which I think is harsh)but it does not feel right that was not penilised.
Really wish this incident was the winning goal as it would be interesting too hear more opinions on it.
Could you direct me to where I might find this in the good book please?the fact hitting his hand actually changes the direction of the ball in HIS favour which allows him to set up the goal.
Could you direct me to where I might find this in the good book please?
Absolutely it wouldn't be a penalty, not even close.
Simple, his hand is away from his body and the fact hitting his hand actually changes the direction of the ball in HIS favour which allows him to set up the goal.
Yes it's accidental of course but very few handballs are deliberate. No doubt in UEFA/European leagues that would be flagged up and rightly so.
Only if the ball goes into the net off (an attacking) player's hand.Bear in mind that handball no longer needs to be deliberate…….
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Away from his body? Where are you expecting his arm to be here?
In terms of law this is not unnaturally bigger and is easily justifiable as a consequence of the specific movement in this situation.
Direction of the ball, yes the ball changes but I'm not sure you can say it was in his favour, the ball span backwards and he had to take a difficult touch to control it. It would have been easier and more in his favour had that not happened.
There really is no basis for this to be sent down from VAR. Not deliberate. Not unnaturally bigger. Not a goal scoring chance for Gordon. Not an offence.
Funny, to me it looks like the ball bouncing up and accidentally hitting a player's hand which was in a natural position.I completely agree that under law this isn’t a handball offence, but feels to me like another example of the law not covering everything, (which is an impossible job). The photo you posted looks like something out of a basketball game.