No pen for me. Neville says he can see why Moss gave it but to me it seems clear than Fernandes has essentially jumped into the defender and landed on his leg
Nevermind grassroots if those at the top can’t get it rightIf I'm not mistaken, Konsa didn't get ball OR man, it was a case of Fernandes committing the foul.
But imagine trying to sell that at grass roots!
, his foot is landing exactly where Ito the villa lad, but he's been done and he's dived in, made contact and for me it's a foul. If Fernandes' foot doesn't make incidental contact with the defender then we all say easy pen to give.
Not sure I agree with thay exactly. It's a mistimed challenge. If a player runs past another player and sticks his leg out, which causes the other player to trip over it, but the player who stuck his leg out's leg was their first, it's still a trip and a careless foul (or worse).The Villa players leg was there first, so it is Fernandez that has made contact. Fernandez treads on the Villa player. Any player is “entitled” to his space, the fact that Fernandez steps on him tells me that the Villa player was there first and it is Fernandez that initiates contact, therefore commits the foul
This shows it quite well:
Not sure I agree with thay exactly. It's a mistimed challenge. If a player runs past another player and sticks his leg out, which causes the other player to trip over it, but the player who stuck his leg out's leg was their first, it's still a trip and a careless foul (or worse).
The defender has mistimed his tackle, Fernandes has every right to try a piece of skill. He has every right to be able to attempt it and not be prevented unfairly because someone got their foot their first.
If the defender was just there I'd say fair argument but he isn't he has attempted a challenge which he has mistimed, or miscalculated and the result was he brought the attacker down.
I gather I am in the minority here
More severe is the penalty surely? >_>
Anyway, I agree with @JamesL it's a penalty, going in for the move, Villa player has committed too early, trip, easy peasy. Brave for any person to give it the other way I reckon. But I can see why you might.
I suspect that if the player was Salah you would have a different opinionThe replay is damning. It’s reckless from Fernandes for me.
(And insane that this was a pen. It’ll be in the courses I expect and never given again. Even I’d Zidane pirouette every time I got close to the box if I thought I could ger away with this!)
I think you have to decide which offence is first. I'm not sure they are exactly Simultaneous.I would say the RC is more severe, guaranteed player off, whereas the pen isn't a guaranteed goal.
Happy to be corrected though.