Arsenal v Wolves

[Wolf_Ref]

Wolves fan here…

But… how on earth are WWFC wasting so much time already (22mins in). I really despise these ‘tactics’.

 

[Degnann]

Can’t comment on that as I’m no longer watching it.
But there was one point Atkinson was pointing to his sleeve whilst in discussion with Lacazette and wolves defender.

anybody any idea what that was about?

 

[shandow]

Also wondering how that wasn’t a penalty on Martinelli in the 1st minute? I’ll dig up a vid.

 

[Joshref]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1496936511287308292

 

[Max2]

Sweet, sweet karma.

 

[Ryanj91]

What got me was the complete lack of cautions for the constant time wasting from around the 20th minute.

The worst one was the substitution that the manager planned to disrupt the Arsenal attack and rhythm. It seemed to be about 2 mins long. Manager should have got booked for that too.

 

[James P]

Talked about it in another thread recently but we all know the caution for time wasting would be in 89th minute or later, it’s happening earlier (in elite level football)

 

[Ryanj91]

Talked about it in another thread recently but we all know the caution for time wasting would be in 89th minute or later, it’s happening earlier (in elite level football)

Their manager made the wolves player faff about on the pitch (worse than the normal slow jog). He then refused to leave the pitch. Manager made a fuss and the ref got annoyed and had a conversation. Then the manager decided to take someone else off on the other side of the pitch so they could do it all over again.

Very messy and poor sportsmanship from a manager.

Could the ref caution the manager for 'tactical time wasting' like that? Haven't seen that before over such a long period of time.

 

[shandow]

Their manager made the wolves player faff about on the pitch (worse than the normal slow jog). He then refused to leave the pitch. Manager made a fuss and the ref got annoyed and had a conversation. Then the manager decided to take someone else off on the other side of the pitch so they could do it all over again.

Very messy and poor sportsmanship from a manager.

Could the ref caution the manager for 'tactical time wasting' like that? Haven't seen that before over such a long period of time.

I can’t answer your question but I feel as though the 4th official should have been more in control of that situation.

 

[GraemeS]

I can’t answer your question but I feel as though the 4th official should have been more in control of that situation.

Agree 100%. If the 4th O isn't dealing with substitutes properly, why even bother turning up?

 

[ARF]

It looked like they had given KF the sub card with Jimenez's number on before another player (Podence?) had gone down injured, at which point they wanted to sub Podence off instead, but KF had already put the board up showing that Jimenez was being subbed.

 

[RustyRef]

It looked like they had given KF the sub card with Jimenez's number on before another player (Podence?) had gone down injured, at which point they wanted to sub Podence off instead, but KF had already put the board up showing that Jimenez was being subbed.

Which is a fairly common situation. They can change the substitution even after they have handed in the card, right up until the point the replacement player enters the pitch. Not a huge amount the 4th official or any of the officials can do about that other than add time on to compensate.

 

[shandow]

Which is a fairly common situation. They can change the substitution even after they have handed in the card, right up until the point the replacement player enters the pitch. Not a huge amount the 4th official or any of the officials can do about that other than add time on to compensate.

Bare in mind, it took a minimum of 3 minutes to sort this mess out, which is shocking really.

 

[Ryanj91]

Bare in mind, it took a minimum of 3 minutes to sort this mess out, which is shocking really.

I was surprised by 6 mins of additional mins too.
3 mins for this sub alone.
2 mins for the hamstring injury
2 mins for normal subs?
Then how 2-4 mins weren't added on for all of the time wasting was interesting.
I was fully expecting about 8/9 mins

 

[shandow]

I was surprised by 6 mins of additional mins too.
3 mins for this sub alone.
2 mins for the hamstring injury
2 mins for normal subs?
Then how 2-4 mins weren't added on for all of the time wasting was interesting.
I was fully expecting about 8/9 mins

Yes, it was a bit odd but in general, added time is not an exact science. 6 mins is bordering on the high end of what is considered "standard" time wasting. If there was a big injury, then I could see this pushed more.
Anyhow, the players will push the limit if the ref allows. The reverse fixture however, was very different. MO pushed the Arsenal players to speed up the game and you could see he was visibly getting rather annoyed. He even told Tierney to put the towel down before taking the long throw in which I found rather odd.