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Busy VAR here, should he/she be leaving referee to do his job?

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✂️ VAR 1

36 seconds · Clipped by DJIC · Original video "ATLÉTICO DE MADRID 1 - 2 FC BARCELONA | RESUMEN LALIGA EA SPORTS" by LALIGA EA SPORTS
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✂️ VAR 2

37 seconds · Clipped by DJIC · Original video "ATLÉTICO DE MADRID 1 - 2 FC BARCELONA | RESUMEN LALIGA EA SPORTS" by LALIGA EA SPORTS
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For me, yes. Neither clear and obvious in my book.

First I see the argument but the player is still wide and the angle is getting ever tighter.

Second they should never get involved, ankle breaker.
 
ocj1998 said:
Who I assume is a bloke dragged in off of the street?
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Ah.... sarcasm. It can never be a good debate without it. (See what i did there? And I am not finshed)

A better assumption would be when one says fans want Europeant referees, they mean a European referee to referee the game not one to do the VAR job. And certainly not a European referee to serve beer at the bar.
 
If people really want European refs, they also want European VAR. I'm not sure that's too outrageous to assume & VAR make up the refereeing team too, the referee can stick to his guns if he wanted to (he didn't). The referee got both these right on field in my mind, but European refereeing (including/especially VAR) is far more chaotic and inconsistent than we see in England.
 
one said:
Ah.... sarcasm. It can never be a good debate without it. (See what i did there? And I am not finshed)

A better assumption would be when one says fans want Europeant referees, they mean a European referee to referee the game not one to do the VAR job. And certainly not a European referee to serve beer at the bar.
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But isn't it VAR that fans have an issue with?
As in, they think theyre missing loads of stuff within VAR and not helping the ref.
 
Hard to tell with the first one, it does look like it might just be outside of the area where the contact is made, no real issue with me if the VAR did give definate proof it was outside the area.

The second one is just baffling, how can a FIFA ref go to the screen and thinks yeah I got that wrong, yes he got the ball cleanly but the follow through surely endangers the opponent.

As for wanting the best foreign refs, I be against it but the refs will have to adjust how the PGMO want to officiate the game, if they don't they won't last very long here. Yes no doubt VAR is more fussy in Spain but if that how they want to operate it then that's fair enough.

People don't realise how good our refs in general are especially our assistants who 99% of the time get offsides spot on and very rarely make a clear error on a offside. We all know the weakness is spotting SFP and with that second incident, it would not surprise me if most of our refs went yellow there basing on experience.
 
The only way it should ever be considered is if it is an exchange programme, that being said why would the PGMO stop the progress of their own referees for those that haven't an understanding of the English game? It's always been a nonsense argument in my eyes.
 
First one was actually a second yellow, given for a free kick. (according to the Spanish instagram ref)

Very clear DOGSO in my book, the goalkeeper was stuck in concrete. Understandable miss in real time.

Think we discussed recently that the VAR intervention doesn't actually add anything when it's a red on field anyway.
 
Imagine waking up in your villa in A Coruña and wandering down to your pool, sipping on a cortado before opening Los Moas and seeing you've been sent to Brentford v Everton on a Wednesday next week. Think I'd burn my passport.
 
Probably not a surprise, the Spanish Referees Technical Committee conclude VAR was wrong to intervene on the Red card.

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Atlético Madrid issues an official response to the Technical Committee’s admission of the referee’s error in the Barcelona match | Goal.com

Atlético Madrid has responded to the decision by the Referees’ Technical Committee of the Spanish Football Federation regarding the controversial incident in the La Liga match between Barcelona and Atlético Madrid last Saturday.
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Sending the referee to the monitor for the 2nd one is astonishing.
The ref seeing it and then reversing his CORRECT decision is double astonishing.
 
Archer said:
Same two teams, but in the UCL last night. How on earth the referee went yellow for the DOGSO was baffling.
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Seeing a clip on social about a goal kick between the teams so not sure if in last night's CL game or the game at weekend.
The same as others, keeper stops ball, passes to team mate (who has a cheeky look up at attackers), stops ball with hand, passes back to keeper.

Are you giving handball as if keeper taken it?

I think id like to know who's been taking the goal kicks previously as an indicator to help. By that, if the keeper has been taking them and passing to defenders up until now, then chances are im giving a penalty. If hes giving the ball for him to take most of the time, then I might let it slide.
I just dont understand the keeper appearing to take it, pass to someone yards away, handles it, and then passes back to keeper.
Is it also a form of tactical delay? May only be seconds but the keeper has taken the ball to the middle with intention to take it. Otherwise why hasn't he rolled it to defender to take? It wastes a few seconds and im guessing at this point AM were leading.
And with the other defender the other side, it looks more like a tactical who is the keeper passing to, not who's taking it.
 
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