Ghost goals over the decades

[FinalWhistle]

This fascinating video shows lots of ghost goals over the decades due to incorrect reffing decisions. Of course, these errors happened due to the difficulty of seeing these fast action edge cases in real time with the naked eye and no available replays. It's interesting to see as how technology has improved, it's become much easier to make correct decisions and virtually eliminate this problem. Goal line technology alongside VAR virtually make this a thing of the past now.

Heck it's now finally possible to definitively determine whether the infamous 1966 England World Cup goal given against West Germany was the correct decision by running the grainy video through a modern PC. I won't spoil it, watch the video and find out.

Ghost goal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Mooseybaby]

Chesterfield Vs Middlesbrough 1997 FA Cup semi final a notable absenty from that list!

One thing that always baffled me about the Watford Vs Reading ghost goal was it was a Reading goal awarded and yet it's a Reading player who was the one stopping the ball from going out of play, so what on earth was going through the officials minds to think it was a Reading goal, guessing no one stopped to think why is a Reading player stopping the ball from crossing the line?

Believe it was discussed on here in length at the time, but the vid mentions the now infamous lockdown match between Villa & Sheffield Utd, which highlighted a flaw in the VAR process that the VAR couldn't intervene and inform the onfield officials that the ball had crossed the line and obviously goal line technology had failed. One of the most basic laws of football, yet VAR couldn't say anything. If anything shouts clear and obvious, it was this!

 

[RustyRef]

Believe it was discussed on here in length at the time, but the vid mentions the now infamous lockdown match between Villa & Sheffield Utd, which highlighted a flaw in the VAR process that the VAR couldn't intervene and inform the onfield officials that the ball had crossed the line and obviously goal line technology had failed. One of the most basic laws of football, yet VAR couldn't say anything. If anything shouts clear and obvious, it was this!

Not sure that was actually the reason, VAR can and do check every goal and whether the ball has crossed the line or not is clearly the defining factor on whether it was a goal or not. Rather I think it was that they didn't have an angle that could prove that GLT had failed, it would look very bad if they overruled GLT and it was then proven to be correct.

At least we have GLT. There's a huge row in Spain at the moment as Barcelona had a goal disallowed against Real that appeared to have crossed the line. They don't have GLT as it is deemed to be too expensive, and they couldn't find a conclusive angle for VAR to make a call.

 

[Mooseybaby]

It was reported in the aftermath and Hawkeye's statement and apology on why their cameras failed to pick it up.

A PGMOL statement read: “Under IFAB protocol, the VAR is able to check goal situations, however due to the fact that the on-field match officials did not receive a signal, and the unique nature of that, the VAR did not intervene.”
17 Jun 2020.

Whilst it's something no one expected after the introduction of GLT, the fact VAR couldn't intervene highlights flaws in the protocols.

 

[RustyRef]

It was reported in the aftermath and Hawkeye's statement and apology on why their cameras failed to pick it up.

A PGMOL statement read: “Under IFAB protocol, the VAR is able to check goal situations, however due to the fact that the on-field match officials did not receive a signal, and the unique nature of that, the VAR did not intervene.”
17 Jun 2020.

Whilst it's something no one expected after the introduction of GLT, the fact VAR couldn't intervene highlights flaws in the protocols.

They didn't intervene, that doesn't mean they didn't review it, they are two very different things. VAR definitely can check ball over line as they did just that in El Classico on Sunday, so either the VAR team just implicitly trusted GLT and didn't even look at it, or they couldn't find any conclusive evidence that GLT had failed.

 

[GraemeS]

It was reported in the aftermath and Hawkeye's statement and apology on why their cameras failed to pick it up.

A PGMOL statement read: “Under IFAB protocol, the VAR is able to check goal situations, however due to the fact that the on-field match officials did not receive a signal, and the unique nature of that, the VAR did not intervene.”
17 Jun 2020.

Whilst it's something no one expected after the introduction of GLT, the fact VAR couldn't intervene highlights flaws in the protocols.

That specifically doesn't say they couldn't intervene, only that they didn't. They were perfectly empowered to make the call, they just didn't either realise the fact there was a call to make, or didn't believe they had the right to do so.

VAR isn't magic or algorithm based AI making decisions. It's a bloke watching a screen, and if he forgets that he can make a call, that call doesn't get made.

 

[Peter Grove]

It was reported in the aftermath and Hawkeye's statement and apology on why their cameras failed to pick it up.

A PGMOL statement read: “Under IFAB protocol, the VAR is able to check goal situations, however due to the fact that the on-field match officials did not receive a signal, and the unique nature of that, the VAR did not intervene.”
17 Jun 2020.

Whilst it's something no one expected after the introduction of GLT, the fact VAR couldn't intervene highlights flaws in the protocols.

No it doesn't, it just highlights the human frailties that can cause such errors to occur. That PGMOL statement makes it clear that under the IFAB protocols, the VAR could have intervened but that they failed to do so, due to the 'unique' nature of the situation.

In other words, because GLT had never failed in this way before (in England, at least) the VAR team were blindsided and failed to fact as they could and should have done.

 

[The Ginger Ref]

Another huge absentee from that video is Luis Garcia's goal against Chelsea in the Champions League. Apologies for bringing it up because I know a lot of Chelsea fans still haven't got over it