I think you're missing the point(s)It produced the correct outcome under the current laws, surely that is what people wanted from VAR. Whilst the handling wasn't necessarily spotted at the time it would have been subsequently and then people would have been onto the referee, if not on here then certainly on other forums and in the press.
I just don't really get what people expect. If a goal is scored and there is any offence in the build up to it then it will be disallowed, I'm not really seeing why this is coming as any kind of surprise.
I see what you’re saying but it’s a bit of a difficult justification (correct outcome under the laws) when it’s not implemented for other objective law infractions.
Mainly referring to keepers coming off line at penalty kicks/encroachment.
I think they need to get rid or at least seriously reconsider the protocol.
Only it wasn't Jesus who handled it. Must've been an act of God! That's what a lot of games are being decided uponView attachment 3653
Clearly Handball!
I think you're missing the point(s)
So if a goal is scored from a penalty (all goals are checked right?) and the replay clearly shows infringement by attacking players (an objective infraction of law) would VAR require a retake?Not going to happen given it is in the first season in England. It might get changed over time obviously, but what is there will be there for at least this season.
They have used it for encroachment, West Ham were penalised last week for it.
Not the best analogy. I didn't call for VAR, so I can say what I likeit's like complaining about people speeding outside your house so the police put speed checks in and you get caught yourself,
So if a goal is scored from a penalty (all goals are checked right?) and the replay clearly shows infringement by attacking players (an objective infraction of law) would VAR require a retake?
I was under the impression that they have a bit more discretion when it comes to those decisions which I think is difficult to justify when you see how it’s implemented with other decisions (the Sterling goal last week being a prime example).
Strangely, although we've seen VAR fumble with subjective stuff in the past, it's now forensic inspection of 'some' black & white stuff which is causing controversy. I think recent events have emphasised how VAR has evolved into something which has no relation to C&OIs this an issue with VAR though? That was just a tool used to highlight a poor law change. VAR actually worked well
Is this an issue with VAR though? That was just a tool used to highlight a poor law change. VAR actually worked well
But there is some subjectivity as to which factual offending they'll look at. It's a can of wormsVAR will only get involved if it affects the play. So for example, the keeper encroaches and saves the kick, or a defender / attacker encroaches and influences play (as Declan Rice did leading to the retaken penalty against West Ham)
I really don’t see how they can justify that.VAR will only get involved if it affects the play. So for example, the keeper encroaches and saves the kick, or a defender / attacker encroaches and influences play (as Declan Rice did leading to the retaken penalty against West Ham)
Strangely, although we've seen VAR fumble with subjective stuff in the past, it's now the fact that black & white stuff is being forensically inspected which is causing controversy. I think this recent turn of events has emphasised how VAR has evolved into something which has no relation to C&O
A loosening of the Law with respect to goalkeepers and the goal line on PKsClear and obvious is only when it is subjective. The ball hitting the arm, a player being offside, etc, isn't subjective and is totally black and white.