I agree. But Zouma has dived in, nowhere near the ball, I think football expects a pen there - even if Ron is too quick of thought and deed for his own good.The third one was the only possible one for me, but if you look at the angle from behind Ronaldo he was definitely already going down before there was any contact.
AR did not help signalling for a corner. That's his credible area to get involved..
The three penalty appeals for Ronaldo. IMO nothing doing for the first two, and the third one is a dive.
Handball by Shaw was blatant - I'm surprised it wasn't given in real time, but at least VAR correctly intervened.
Very surprised that this foul on Soucek wasn't given though. Seems to be a clear as day penalty to me.
Watching the third one again I don't believe that there is actually any contact whatsoever between attacker and defender. This isn't a situation where the attacker is having to take evasive action to avoid getting hurt - he's simply pretended to have been tripped to try and win a penalty.Think Ronaldo did himself a dis service. My thoughts were that the 3rd was a foul but likely not given due to the possibility he was looking to go down, he doesn't do that and the foul is clearer, the player makes a rash challenge, is late and ultimately would have tripped Ronaldo anyway. The contact is there and had it been given it would k
Not have been overturned either. But Ronaldo makes it not a C&O error by his action.
The defender clearly comes across Ronaldos path, and they do make contact, but what I am saying is that if Ronaldo doesn't take the action he does he gets wiped out.Watching the third one again I don't believe that there is actually any contact whatsoever between attacker and defender. This isn't a situation where the attacker is having to take evasive action to avoid getting hurt - he's simply pretended to have been tripped to try and win a penalty.
I have cautioned for simulation for a similar incident to the third one on Ronaldo.
The three penalty appeals for Ronaldo. IMO nothing doing for the first two, and the third one is a dive.
Handball by Shaw was blatant - I'm surprised it wasn't given in real time, but at least VAR correctly intervened.
Very surprised that this foul on Soucek wasn't given though. Seems to be a clear as day penalty to me.
Probably, but for me even if Atkinson had given it in real time, VAR should have intervened for simulation by Ronaldo.The defender clearly comes across Ronaldos path, and they do make contact, but what I am saying is that if Ronaldo doesn't take the action he does he gets wiped out.
I don't think they would. I think the VAR would look and say the defender has "tripped or attempted to trip". I just couldn't see them sending it down for simulation.Probably, but for me even if Atkinson had given it in real time, VAR should have intervened for simulation by Ronaldo.
To be picky I think that would be "carelessly tackling/challenging an opponent" otherwise you're saying that he intended to trip him, but I take your point and I agree that in the PL that's probably what would happen, I'm only saying that to me (in an ideal world) it was simulation and should have been called so!I don't think they would. I think the VAR would look and say the defender has "tripped or attempted to trip". I just couldn't see them sending it down for simulation.
It wouldn't be clearly and obviously wrong because ultimately, the defender is committing an offence of carelessly attempting to trip opponent.
I think VAR shrugs at it and confirms on field decision. But we will never know as MA rightly said no to the pen.
I think you could argue both, it's. Semantics really. If he did make the Contact in the way he did you could argue he trips his opponent so a failed attempt is attempt to trip.To be picky I think that would be "carelessly tackling/challenging an opponent" otherwise you're saying that he intended to trip him, but I take your point and I agree that in the PL that's probably what would happen, I'm only saying that to me (in an ideal world) it was simulation and should have been called so!
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That's the first bit of contact I can see, and CR's already practically perpendicular
For this one, there were far more blatant holding offences in other games this weekend (on Zaha and on Son) where the fouled player kept going but it affected their balance and they didn't score, where going down might have brought a PK and RC.