Good. Only another 115 more charges to go !City have been charged
Good. Only another 115 more charges to go !City have been charged
Yes exactly - Virgil VD got a red card for an offence and then got extra time for saying 'you're ****ing joking'. No screaming in his face and no touching the referee. The FA are showing double standards here and its going to cause outrage if nothing is done about it.No excuses for Haaland to lay hands on the referee though.
Verbals, context some may forgive, but you cannot allow physical contact.
Having watched it back he steps towards Haaland so just as well he put his hands on him or he would of ended up headbutting him at the time I agreed with you watching back I’ve seen this.No excuses for Haaland to lay hands on the referee though.
Verbals, context some may forgive, but you cannot allow physical contact.
VVD committed a foul and the ref got that initial decision right. I'm not outraged.Yes exactly - Virgil VD got a red card for an offence and then got extra time for saying 'you're ****ing joking'. No screaming in his face and no touching the referee. The FA are showing double standards here and its going to cause outrage if nothing is done about it.
Oh yes, we all know OFFINABUS is fine if it's in response to an incorrect decision.VVD committed a foul and the ref got that initial decision right. I'm not outraged.
So it's ok for a player to hit a referee's hands in anger/frustration?VVD committed a foul and the ref got that initial decision right. I'm not outraged.
The post spoke about double standards. City have been charged with failing to control their players.Oh yes, we all know OFFINABUS is fine if it's in response to an incorrect decision.
And ridiculous to compare it with Mitrovic's behaviour.
The only ridiculous thing is a referee trying to justify abuse due to incorrect decisions. You should know better than that.The post spoke about double standards. City have been charged with failing to control their players.
If a player was fouled, but got up quickly and delivered a stunning pass to an onside player 3 yards clear of the defenders, then realised the referee had given the strangest decision of the season, then shouted at the referee and touched the referee's arm and got a YC for dissent, but then a retrospective 3-match ban.... all because the ref got it badly wrong... then I might be outraged.
And ridiculous to compare it with Mitrovic's behaviour.
Excellent & honest comment.He's made a human error, just as Haaland did when missing a near open goal. Hooper will have been cursing himself on his long drive home, but I've certainly been too quick on the whistle when I could and should have played advantage, and I think most referees will have been. I did it in a big local derby in an Isthmian League game with over 1000 spectators and I was still thinking about it days later. I didn't do it deliberately, I just misread the situation and made a stupid decision.
He had an excellent game, evidenced by the fact that Mike Dean sat unemployed until second half stoppage time, but every human being will make mistakes.
I am afraid if you truly believe what you have said, then you are way off the mark. Not only do Referees develop once they are under the leadership of the PGMOL & especially if they are fortunate enough to get to the PL, but this is physically, technically & mentally. With regard to the latter, with the PL being shown all over the world, the amount of attention the official receives is probably no one on this website can comprehend. It is in a completely different stratosphereI've long since deduced that referees stop improving after a certain number of years. Arguably by the time a referee gets to National League or National League South, that's it. Beyond such a certain level, it occurs to me that we're all much if a muchness and promotion is largely a function of luck (and likely, positive discrimination going forward). The reason I believe this, is because elite referees make the same mistakes as their colleagues lower down on about the same frequency
This mistake was an 'absolute howler' IMO, not just a howler. If I do that this weekend, the consequences will be unthinkable
It's normal that verbal misconduct is allowed to pass in such circumstances. Too busy wanting a hole in the ground to open up rather than double down with cards and sin bins
This incident any type of similar incidents are always looked at retrospectively. It is also the case that anytime a Referee is surrounded by 4 or more players from the same team at this level of level of football, then the Referee is obliged to report it. City have since been charged.I think this is where VAR should come into play. There should be retrospective punishments for this type of behaviour if the referee is hounded like this and doesn't get the opportunity to act
Let the FA deal with it, which the FA are doing. To also bear in mind, that the Virgil VD incident is not an exact like for like situation.Yes exactly - Virgil VD got a red card for an offence and then got extra time for saying 'you're ****ing joking'. No screaming in his face and no touching the referee. The FA are showing double standards here and it’s going to cause outrage if nothing is done about it.
Hi and welcome, comes across as a bit condescending if you are saying no one else on here can understand something but you can. Please bear in mind that there is a lot of disagreement on this forum about some incidents, some laws, and the application of some laws. But what you will find is that many threads are more about how the laws and the various bodies (and media!) could support TV referees better and prevent abuse in all its forms (and its “trickle” down to grassroots).I am afraid if you truly believe what you have said, then you are way off the mark. Not only do Referees develop once they are under the leadership of the PGMOL & especially if they are fortunate enough to get to the PL, but this is physically, technically & mentally. With regard to the latter, with the PL being shown all over the world, the amount of attention the official receives is probably no one on this website can comprehend. It is in a completely different stratosphere
I apologise that you feel that my reply is condescending, that was not my intention, it was meant to come across as a constructive disagreement with the initial post. I am certainly not saying that no one else on here but me can understand something. Everyone is entitled to their opinion & I have shared mine.Hi and welcome, comes across as a bit condescending if you are saying no one else on here can understand something but you can. Please bear in mind that there is a lot of disagreement on this forum about some incidents, some laws, and the application of some laws. But what you will find is that many threads are more about how the laws and the various bodies (and media!) could support TV referees better and prevent abuse in all its forms (and its “trickle” down to grassroots).
Pretty certain Hooper in the former there, but as a general point, it's a fair point.Those type of errors often happen at the end of games, aswell. When your body is tired, your concentrating lapses aswell. Get fit to referee, not referee to get fit !
Why therefore, do PGMOL Referees make similar mistakes to their amateur colleagues, arguably (a strong argument) with the same sort of frequency? My beliefs are in no way disparaging towards these Professional Referees. If you've interpreted that then you've misinterpreted me. I'm aware that they are not just elite referees, but elite individuals in many respects (I've met enough of them in person)I am afraid if you truly believe what you have said, then you are way off the mark. Not only do Referees develop once they are under the leadership of the PGMOL & especially if they are fortunate enough to get to the PL, but this is physically, technically & mentally. With regard to the latter, with the PL being shown all over the world, the amount of attention the official receives is probably no one on this website can comprehend. It is in a completely different stratosphere