spuddy1878
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So originally given a yellow but over turned after watching VAR
Thoughts.
Thoughts.
Agreed. I don't like making a judgement on a slow motion clip, but based on the slow replay, that looks borderline deliberate and it looks more than borderline red. I'd be very keen to see a full speed replay though and see if that changes anything.Studs down the achilles is a red. I'm fairly confident it wasn't intentional, but as this is a ref forum we know the laws are based what happened and not what the player meant.
Moments like this will be the thorne in the side of VAR for some time.
Yup. My understanding is that slow motion & stills are only supposed to be used to determine point of contact - so for something like this the ref should go to the screen, be shown one slow replay or still to prove that studs made contact with ankle, then be shown a range of full speed replays and angles so that he can decide if it was deliberate and how forceful it was.I dont think they should be allowed to look at the replay in slow motion.
Like Cesc, but that was deliberate. His 'I'm innocent' acting wasn't the best either...
It's easily within his peripheral vision. Very easy to hit the target.Watching his eyes, he appears to be looking away at the point of contact - not easy to hit a moving target like that. I'm convinced it was accidental.
And, I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Yes, hopefully once players start to realise they aren't going to get away with these types of fouls anymore they hopefully might engage their brain.Moments like this will be the thorne in the side of VAR for some time.
I think it was intentional, but that's based on a slow-mo replay which should be irrelevantStuds down the achilles is a red. I'm fairly confident it wasn't intentional, but as this is a ref forum we know the laws are based what happened and not what the player meant.
Moments like this will be the thorne in the side of VAR for some time.
Yes, clearly.I think it was intentional, but that's based on a slow-mo replay which should be irrelevant
Not sure I'd be sending him off based on a real-time hunch however
Remind me, are they allowed to use slow motion replay when reviewing such incidents?
That's a FIFA thing. If contact is with studs/cleats above the ankle, then start with a red card and then see if there's reason to bring that down to a yellow (like glancing contact only, no/negligible force, etc).French referees are instructed that anything above the ankle is a red card!
That was (almost) the Futuro (FIFA) guidelines previously. There's supposed to be an understanding now that the force is also important, not just the point and type of contact.The French take a different tack, and not as you say.
ANY tackle above the ankle WILL be a sending off.
Yes, clearly
Not sure how these statements can happily occupy the same spaceslow motion should only be used for facts