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The Ref Stop
Can’t really judge the ref here at all without context.

I am not a fan of telling players “last play”—no reason for us to box ourselves in. (But then I also started reffing when we didn’t share how much time was added and the usual answer to “how much time, ref” was “enough” or “some.”)
 
I never usually say 'last attack' as, as you say, it gives teams the advantage of setting up differently, but I do sometimes tell the captain of a team taking a corner/free kick if they're chasing a game 'this will be the last play, even if it goes out for another corner there is no time to take it.

I think there is an expectation in football, rightly or wrongly, that an attack in active play should be allowed to finish.

I wouldn't be opposed to a law change that says the half/match finishes when the ball crosses the half way line for the first time after time is up or similar.
 
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If I've decided times's up but there is an attacking move in motion, I'll always wait until it phizzles out or the ball goes out of play before blowing.

I like a simple life and so choose wisely the hill upon which I wish to die. ;) ;)
 
Kes said:
If I've decided times's up but there is an attacking move in motion, I'll always wait until it phizzles out or the ball goes out of play before blowing.

I like a simple life and so choose wisely the hill upon which I wish to die. ;) ;)
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Fine balance if the winning team then concede well after any indicated amount of time.
I keep saying this but context matters if it's literally just gone time then maybe we don't stop it. A short amount of seconds is easily explainable. Already let it go a little longer then we have to climb up on that hill and justify it, which is easily done in law.
 
This is a painful watch.

If the ref blows up when the blue player takes control inside their own box. Minimum complaints.

But they let the Blues get to the halfway line and easily into a DOGSO position before hammering the whistle.
 
I am often watching games when Referees allow too much additional time. I watched a Supply League game recently when nearly 12 mins was added, with no long stoppage for an injury though there were a few short treated injuries, with the goalkeeper walking off to be replaced, as well as the replacement goalkeeper being sin binned, as well as substitutions, but 12 mins is a long time. I can’t explain it other than Referees just seem to want to prolong games more than is required & usually ends up having a controversial moment or a bad injury. However, what I am not advocating is play insufficient stoppage time, just appropriate stoppage time if that makes sense!
 
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JamesL said:
Fine balance if the winning team then concede well after any indicated amount of time.
I keep saying this but context matters if it's literally just gone time then maybe we don't stop it. A short amount of seconds is easily explainable. Already let it go a little longer then we have to climb up on that hill and justify it, which is easily done in law.
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Absolutely.
Thankfully, in my own experience and at the level I operate, "attacking moves" tend to break down or end up with ball out of play within about 20 seconds.
The only obvious problem then is if it's a corner - which Ill allow to be taken.
In the grand scheme of things, 30-60 seconds over "time" won't (or hasn't up till now) cause me any issues. 🙂
 
DavidObs said:
I am often watching games when Referees allow too much additional time. I watched a Supply League game recently when nearly 12 mins was added, with no long stoppage for an injury though there were a few short treated injuries, with the goalkeeper walking off to be replaced, as well as the replacement goalkeeper being sin binned, as well as substitutions, but 12 mins is a long time. I can’t explain it other than Referees just seem to want to prolong games more than is required & usually ends up having a controversial moment or a bad injury. However, what I am not advocating is not to play sufficient stoppage time, just appropriate stoppage time if that makes sense!
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You'd love me on the Isle of Wight. 90:05 peep peep peeeeeep run away cheers bye lads 👋🏃‍♂️💨⛴️
 
Archer said:
You'd love me on the Isle of Wight. 90:05 peep peep peeeeeep run away cheers bye lads 👋🏃‍♂️💨⛴️
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Is it even a trip to the island if you're not starting the watch before you leave the changing room?
 
bester said:
Bit of an extreme example, below, to illustrate what can happen.

What strategies do people use to navigate attacks when, shall we say, time is very short.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2042517323752362397

Seen some refs telling everyone it's the last play, but they can then put 10 players in the box which seems a bit of advantage to the attack
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2 local teams for me so I’ll give you some context that has made this even more of a talking point and why everyone is so excited.

Home side (the team who have the corner at the end) are 2nd in the league (needed to win, hence the keeper being up).
The away side are 1st in the league, a win in this game means they win the title.
It is 2-2 at the time of the video, the home team having been 2-0 have just conceded a 95th minute equaliser.
This attack (and potential goal) would have wrapped up the league title for the team attacking (after being 2-0 down against the team that were 2nd, coming back to 2-2, this would have won them the league 3-2 in the last moments).

Blowing the whistle here (rightly or wrongly) has potentially stopped the team from winning the league with the last kick of the game at the home of their promotion rivals!
 
betterlatethannever said:
2 local teams for me so I’ll give you some context that has made this even more of a talking point and why everyone is so excited.

Home side (the team who have the corner at the end) are 2nd in the league (needed to win, hence the keeper being up).
The away side are 1st in the league, a win in this game means they win the title.
It is 2-2 at the time of the video, the home team having been 2-0 have just conceded a 95th minute equaliser.
This attack (and potential goal) would have wrapped up the league title for the team attacking (after being 2-0 down against the team that were 2nd, coming back to 2-2, this would have won them the league 3-2 in the last moments).

Blowing the whistle here (rightly or wrongly) has potentially stopped the team from winning the league with the last kick of the game at the home of their promotion rivals!
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I think it is a sure thing that blowing when he did potentially stopped the team winning the league & many will be critical of the Referee, especially from that team & their supporters etc. However, this is not a Clive Thomas situation, whereby although the Referee in this game would have been better served to have blown seconds earlier as soon as the ball broke (or even a second beforehand), if by looking at his watch time was up, then he has to blow rather than allowing the game to continue just because of what the outcome may turn out to be.
 
He blows up when the ball reaches half way.
Wouldn't surprise me if that was deliberate and he's misunderstood what he's been spoon fed about stopping play in a neutral area.

I'm more concerned about the goalkeeper making zero effort to get back than the refereeing decision
 
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