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No Santa he doesn’t have to give it.
It was no way delibrate, a slight brush off arm onto his knee.
Give that you give 5 per game
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No Santa he doesn’t have to give it.
It was no way delibrate, a slight brush off arm onto his knee.
Give that you give 5 per game
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This also shows the handball laws are wrong.
The guidance on unnatural position has become dominant.
Unexpected ball must be a key criterion.
But we must get back to e.g. deliberate and gaining an advantage.
It's embarrassing.
And VAR is pitiful.
Of course Pitana could not make the decision he wanted to make. Of course he didn't want to give that. He pulled away and then went for one more look. He didn't want to give it but had to based on the guidance. And the protocol - which does not work!
Dismal absolutely dismal.
The guidance on unnatural position has become dominant.
Unexpected ball must be a key criterion.
But we must get back to e.g. deliberate and gaining an advantage.
It's embarrassing.
And VAR is pitiful.
Of course Pitana could not make the decision he wanted to make. Of course he didn't want to give that. He pulled away and then went for one more look. He didn't want to give it but had to based on the guidance. And the protocol - which does not work!
Dismal absolutely dismal.
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This has the ingredients to get nasty
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only 3 minutes added!
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It already is though Santa.
1) the position of the hand does not neccessarily mean there is an offence
2) the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
On those two criterion that is not handball.
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Cynical foul there by Strinic no yellow
Can someone please remind me of the 4th official?
Think Fifa got there wires crossed
Can someone please remind me of the 4th official?
Think Fifa got there wires crossed
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Yep blew for HT
Either that or it’s Rochi in the stands pissed on Vodka getting his own back
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I know it's there but there has been so much focus on "unnatural position" that it is clouding judgement.
I maintain that based on this tournament, which - let's face it, has it's own laws, that I hope do not enter the rest of the game - based on this tournament, it's handball.
Pitana has done what Collina and the refs in the VAR have asked. Why would they recommend a review if they didn't think it was HB?
It's a nonsense. But I don't blame Pitana here.
If VAR worked then it would have chalked off the first goal - giving the DFK was a clear and obvious error - and they'd have never recommended a review for the second.
With no VAR this would be 1-1 and we'd have a game of football.
Absolutely agree. Any other poor communication on the subject, is only clarification or interpretation of words which are already pretty clear (for a change)
The defender should have chopped his arm off before commencing play
As for the Clear & Obvious thing, we gave up on this a good while back
VARSOLE strikes again..... terrible decision!
Croatia can feel very aggrieved. The first goal shouldn't have stood, and I think for two reasons. The obvious one that there is no way it was a foul for the free kick, so that should have been reviewed. Then I also think there is a very possible offside on the goal - Pogba is stood offside and challenges Mandzucic as he heads it.
For the penalty I'm hot having that as intentional. He was jumping so yes his arms were out, and they were coming back down as the ball hit him. I've said this so many times, but you cannot jump like a penguin with your arms pinned by your sides.
For the penalty I'm hot having that as intentional. He was jumping so yes his arms were out, and they were coming back down as the ball hit him. I've said this so many times, but you cannot jump like a penguin with your arms pinned by your sides.
My biggest worry is that collina/ifab come out and say now 99.4% accurate as it was a correct decision.
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As we know, its not the wording of the law
And, I for one am not privvy to instructions for this tournament
However, its been clear to me that its along lines of, did the defender do anything to avoid the ball striking the hand
If not, then pk.
And, I for one am not privvy to instructions for this tournament
However, its been clear to me that its along lines of, did the defender do anything to avoid the ball striking the hand
If not, then pk.
Santa, you might have a point that FIFA now want this to be a HB
But surely they can't move the goalposts on a whim in the World Cup
The rest of us can't go into a new season refereeing by way of hearsay and guesswork
Not even elite sportsmen have reactions quick enough to avoid that