Penalty Kick Question

[NOVARef]

Say the person taking the penalty kick runs right past the ball, then backs up to take it again. You blow the whistle.

I would think this is is an illegal feint and YC for the kicker and indirect kick for the defenders, but a referee that I follow on a social media platform gave this example and said that...it's a YC for the kicker but they still get to take the kick again because of the following clause in the Laws...

Once the referee has signalled for a penalty kick to be taken, the kick must be taken; if it is not taken, the referee may take disciplinary action before signalling again for the kick to be taken.

But the Laws also say...The penalty kick is completed when the ball stops moving, goes out of play or the referee stops play for any offence.

What's the correct restart? Thanks

 

[Archer]

Say the person taking the penalty kick runs right past the ball, then backs up to take it again. You blow the whistle.

I would think this is is an illegal feint and YC for the kicker and indirect kick for the defenders, but a referee that I follow on a social media platform gave this example and said that...it's a YC for the kicker but they still get to take the kick again because of the following clause in the Laws...

Once the referee has signalled for a penalty kick to be taken, the kick must be taken; if it is not taken, the referee may take disciplinary action before signalling again for the kick to be taken.

But the Laws also say...The penalty kick is completed when the ball stops moving, goes out of play or the referee stops play for any offence.

What's the correct restart? Thanks

Correct restart is the penalty being taken.

Play has not been stopped by the referee for an offence as play has not yet restarted.

 

[RefereeX]

Any time an offence is committed without the ball in play, it can not affect the restart, regardless of what that offence is. The only slight difference to this would be obviously an incorrectly taken throw in, but that isn't an offence as such.

 

[ladbroke8745]

Assume this is in reference to the National League match the other day.

 

[NOVARef]

I'm not sure when the match that provided the clip was played or what level. The referee in the match awarded a free kick to the defending team and the youtube short referee used this as an example of an incorrect call and that it should have been a penalty "retake". It obviously confused me but it makes sense that the "restart" should still be the penalty kick as penalty kick was never taken and offenses don't change restarts. Thanks

 

[JamesL]

Any time an offence is committed without the ball in play, it can not affect the restart, regardless of what that offence is. The only slight difference to this would be obviously an incorrectly taken throw in, but that isn't an offence as such.

It's a bit of anomaly to this principle because with feinting it always happens before the ball is in play.

 

[RefereeX]

It's a bit of anomaly to this principle because with feinting it always happens before the ball is in play.

Very true

 

[Ganajin]

It's a bit of anomaly to this principle because with feinting it always happens before the ball is in play.

Except that IFAB have made it clear that if there is illegal feinting and the ball is NOT then kicked, there is still a YC but the penalty remains the restart.

Remember that there are two other anomalies that lead to loss of the penalty kick. One is the kicker playing the ball backwards, the other is someone other than the designated player taking the kick. In all these cases though, the ball has been put into play.

 

[one]

an incorrectly taken throw in, but that isn't an offence as such.

Are you saying then we can't play advantage from a 'foul throw'?

 

[one]

IFAB have made it clear that if there is illegal feinting and the ball is NOT then kicked, there is still a YC

To be clear, for the kicker to be cautioned this has to hold true

feinting to kick the ball once the kicker has completed the run-up (feinting in the run-up is permitted);

Meaning the run up has to be completed, and then the kicker takes an action that the referee deems as "feinting to kick the ball". Running past the ball does not necessarily satisfy this criteria for a mandatory caution. Though given USB is open ended, the referee can caution any action they deem USB.

 

[one]

It's a bit of anomaly to this principle because with feinting it always happens before the ball is in play.

If the ball is kicked, there can be an argument that an offence has still been committed (or continued) after the kick, being the goalkeeper is distracted and it is that offence that changes the restart.

Similar to encroachment of the field player. The actual encroachment happens before the ball is kicked but it is still 'present' after the ball is kicked.

 

[RefereeX]

Are you saying then we can't play advantage from a 'foul throw'?

I knew someone would bring that back up!

 

[CaptainsPlease]

Even when there is not a feint after the run up is completed, if the ball is not kicked a caution can still be issued for delaying the restart. As others have said, the restart is not changed and the penalty kick can be taken.