Correct decision??
- Thread starter Sheffields Finest
- Start date
Orange....Don't sit on the fence Angle!!Yellow or Red.....
Peter Grove
RefChat Addict
I think you only have to look at the very cogent arguments put forward by different posters to see that it's not a 100% certain DOGSO call. If it was, no-one would be even debating it but plenty are.
The main points of contention for me are the likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball, in conjunction with the number of defenders. After the attacker's last touch, the ball is going one way and he is going another. By the time he gets back to it, there would have been at least two defenders blocking his way to goal with a third who might have got there, perhaps even in time to directly challenge the player for possession of the ball - although I'm less sure on that last point.
I think the decision could have gone either way and I definitely don't agree with the pundits who were saying it couldn't be anything other than a red card for the sole reason of it being a handling offence by the keeper outside the area. They were adamant that no other decision was even permissible under the law, which just isn't true.
zarathustra
RefChat Addict
its a yellow for me, mainly because im not 100% convinced that the attacker would have had time to regain control of the ball and take a shot before any of the defenders were able to intercept.
spuddy1878
RefChat Addict
How does that matter ?
The word constantly missed out is goal scoring opportunity not a goal.
Think you missed out the word 'obvious'
spuddy1878
RefChat Addict
Think you missed out the word 'obvious'
Id call a shot with no GK obvious.
I agree (for the professional game that is). However, I fancy it's not obvious enough for the Kings Head v The Queens Arms
Because if only 50% of elite level players would score from that position then that isn't obvious enough for me. He still had a lot of work to do to get the ball in the net, and just not obvious enough for me.
spuddy1878
RefChat Addict
An obvious opportunity not an obvious goal.
a 50% chance of something happening isn't obvious.
Do they quantify a certain degree of obviousness or is it back to making it up on the hoof??
And thus, it ain't an "obvious goal"...
We're all getting sidetracked here.
Is there an obviously goal scoring OPPORTUNITY?
Not is this denying an obvious GOAL...
One on one with the keeper is 50 50 at grass roots
Equivalently, I'd expect a red card for this in the professional game
Denying that obvious opportunity is the correct literal interpretation of the sequence of words in dogso (notwithstanding the the guidance on this Law)
We'd give a red for DOGSO with just the keeper to beat and we wouldn't even consider whether the player is good enough to beat the keeper, it's still an obvious opportunity...