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Egg man

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Level 4 Referee
First observation as a L4, positive feedback from Observer just asking what a respectful mark would be?
 
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It is difficult to tell at the moment what marking will end up like overall because of the new marking scheme for this season. I got slightly over 71 for my first observation last week which I felt was fair.
 
First observation as a L4, positive feedback from Observer just asking what a respectful mark would be?
And the classic response following an observation "what is the mark?" 🤯

As an observer, we take time to assess your performance - highlighting in text what your strengths and development areas are, offering our experience to provide solutions AND the first thing you want to know is "what is the mark"!

Why do we bother ?????
 
And the classic response following an observation "what is the mark?" 🤯

As an observer, we take time to assess your performance - highlighting in text what your strengths and development areas are, offering our experience to provide solutions AND the first thing you want to know is "what is the mark"!

Why do we bother ?????
I don’t blame the author for asking the question, especially since it appears clear he has read through the report first, rather than as some do, look for the mark first and then may or may not read the report, whereby their view is often skewered with the comments if the mark was lower than what they were hoped for/expected.
 
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And the classic response following an observation "what is the mark?" 🤯

As an observer, we take time to assess your performance - highlighting in text what your strengths and development areas are, offering our experience to provide solutions AND the first thing you want to know is "what is the mark"!

Why do we bother ?????
I assume they asked the score as this is the first barrier to them getting promoted?

When the end of assessment period comes the first thing looked at is - did they get the right score?

If that's wrong i withdraw my comments.
 
And the classic response following an observation "what is the mark?" 🤯

As an observer, we take time to assess your performance - highlighting in text what your strengths and development areas are, offering our experience to provide solutions AND the first thing you want to know is "what is the mark"!

Why do we bother ?????
I genuinely value all observer reports, as they provide fair and unbiased feedback. They help me understand both what I'm doing well and where I can improve. That said, when it comes to promotion, the average score is what ultimately counts.
 
And the classic response following an observation "what is the mark?" 🤯

As an observer, we take time to assess your performance - highlighting in text what your strengths and development areas are, offering our experience to provide solutions AND the first thing you want to know is "what is the mark"!

Why do we bother ?????
Because referees need to be able to gage what is a good, bad and middle ground mark. Never mind promotion, they need them to also stop being reclassified.
 
Because referees need to be able to gage what is a good, bad and middle ground mark. Never mind promotion, they need them to also stop being reclassified.
In an ideal world and is often the case when FA inform Referees to concentrate on the report to reflect & learn etc, then I can see why the FA are keen for Referees not to focus on their marks. However, Referees need to know the mark to know whether there are any grounds for appeal whereby there is a time limit. Although I have had appeals, most of which I disagree with, I always accept the outcomes, as well as agreeing the fundamental principle that Referees have the right to appeal so long as it fulfils the appeal criteria.
 
And the classic response following an observation "what is the mark?" 🤯

As an observer, we take time to assess your performance - highlighting in text what your strengths and development areas are, offering our experience to provide solutions AND the first thing you want to know is "what is the mark"!

Why do we bother ?????
While ever there is a marking system which is the main key performance indicator that drives promotion referees will be motivated by the end result: the mark.

It doesn't devalue the report and the time the observer put into it.
 
It appears in our pool 71.8 is around average which is slightly lower from what it was last season. That could be because the general scoring is lower but also an adaption period for people
 
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